audi s2 front brakes on 16v coupe

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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #16
    Originally posted by shaun5
    Would Audi 90 20v discs not fit?
    No, wrong hat height.

    Coupe quattro 20v ones would be a direct fit though, as its the same brakes as the s2.
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock

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    • Skull
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Mar 2004
      • 3506
      • Country: Slovenia

      #17
      but the 90 20v has the s2 brakes...
      Audi Quattro WR

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      • Monkeymagic
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Mar 2012
        • 3419
        • Country: England

        #18
        Im confused .. are you saying that 16 valve had 280 mm brakes? i gather the 276 4 stud discs with s2 calipers Will bolt straight on. but if already 280 which pretty certain they aren't what's the point?

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        • Skull
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Mar 2004
          • 3506
          • Country: Slovenia

          #19
          1. 16v= 280x22 disks 4x108, 54mm single piston caliper
          2. B3 20v and 2.8 B4 276x25mm disks 4x108, 2 pot calipers
          3. S2 same brakes as above, but 5x112 disks
          4. you cant use 2pot calipers with 280mm disks.

          bottom line is, (if) you already have 280mm disks, the 2pot calipers are no upgrade, they will not stop you car faster then the brakes you have.
          Audi Quattro WR

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          • Monkeymagic
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Mar 2012
            • 3419
            • Country: England

            #20
            well it looks like they are 280mm discs so there is no real performance benefits. oh well

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            • andy10v
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2009
              • 5996
              • Country: Scotland

              #21
              Originally posted by Sküll
              but the 90 20v has the s2 brakes...
              Yes but I undestood the 90 20v has a lower hat height on the discs than the cq20v or s2. Possibly to do with hub offset?


              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
              Sold ABY-stock

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              • Mikes2
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jul 2003
                • 1704
                • Country: Scotland

                #22
                The 90 20v uses a different hub as it also runs a different track from the Coupe. Disc hat is 5mm lower on the 90 20v compared to the Coupe / S2

                The twin piston brakes (G60) are very much an improvement over the single piston G54 fitted to the 16v and 2.6
                Mike

                http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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                • shaun5
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1610
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Personally i would still go ahead with the conversion if its only a case of getting new discs
                  If the S2 (G60 calipers) brakes werent an upgrade over the 16v why would they have fitted them

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                  • Monkeymagic
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 3419
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    you would think it would help being twin pots. may do it anyway but which discs are correct now then? really confused now?

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                    • Skull
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 3506
                      • Country: Slovenia

                      #25
                      Originally posted by shaun5
                      If the S2 (G60 calipers) brakes werent an upgrade over the 16v why would they have fitted them
                      they are an upgrade, but will not stop the car faster, only wear more slowly because of the larger pad surface, and will take more heat because of the thickness.


                      some proof and part numbers:

                      http://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-Bremsschei...ht_2924wt_1139
                      Last edited by Skull; 17 September 2012, 20:47.
                      Audi Quattro WR

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                      • Mikes2
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1704
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #26
                        You want discs from a Coupe quattro 2.8 or 20v. 276x25mm, 56mm high (31mm hat height)
                        Mike

                        http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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