ABS gremlin on 3B

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  • dan_b
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Sep 2003
    • 3670
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

    #1

    ABS gremlin on 3B

    And here's the next problem that my beautiful S2 has thrown up on me...

    When braking at very low speeds, I'm now getting what feels like the ABS cutting in fairly frequently. This is silly.

    I've got Porsche 4-pots with Ferodo DS2500s up front, and EBC Greens on the back. Recently replaced a sticking rear left caliper. Front right caliper is squealing pretty badly under light brake pressure, still waiting for new anti-squeal shims from VAG Parts (Martyn?!)...

    Anyway, the ABS coming in is I'm sure not related to having different brake compounds. Could it be a faulty ABS sensor on one of the wheels? If so, how would I diagnose which one it is? How easy is it to replace?

    I can of course switch the ABS off, and when I do that, braking is normal, but I'd rather not drive the whole time with ABS off, just in case the unexpected happens.

    Help! Is this going to be expensive?
    Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...
  • rotoryboy
    S2Forum Possessed
    • May 2004
    • 3281
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Mine did this on my aby and turned out to be the sensor slightly off. Repositioned it, perfect.
    Mark

    Race Clio RS197

    S2 Coupe ABY (Green) - RIP
    S2 Coupe ABY (Blue) - Sold

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    • dan_b
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      • Sep 2003
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      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      Where are these sensors? Could it have just come loose then?
      Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        Almost certainly a duff ABS sensor as you suggest - or wiring faulty to it.

        The good-news is its very easy to find this fault on the ABS variant which does NOT have the cancel switch as VAG-COM gives access to the info. However, bad news is that the earlier variant on 3B needs a special Bosch/VAG tester for such tests.

        You could try taking resistance measurements across each ABS sensor and see if one is different. The sensor is connectorised near where it enters the bodywork.

        New sensors aren't horribly expensive, but they are a bitch to renew as years of rust invariably means the old ones need drilled out from their location in the hub carrier.


        Paul
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        • dan_b
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          • Sep 2003
          • 3670
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #5
          How did I know that the 3B was going to be worse

          I'm really hacked off with my car at the moment.
          Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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          • spink
            S2Forum Freak
            • Jul 2003
            • 4382
            • Country: England

            #6
            As yet i have never had one sensor seize in solid, and ive removed around 30 in the last year.Most come out using fingers only, if you find you need a spare one i have several.

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            • dan_b
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              • Sep 2003
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              #7
              Hi Spink
              I think I'll be needing some then - there's definitely something hooky going on, but I need to find out which one first and I don't even have a multi-meter!

              Dan
              Not particularly tooled up
              Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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              • sla_s2
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Jul 2003
                • 166

                #8
                i had the same problem on my 3b for three years (shame on me) until some guys used the hammer and "repositioned" the abs sensors it is perfect now!!!

                sla s2


                Originally posted by dan_b
                Hi Spink
                I think I'll be needing some then - there's definitely something hooky going on, but I need to find out which one first and I don't even have a multi-meter!

                Dan
                Not particularly tooled up
                sla
                '91 s2 3b, 305hp, 480 nm.
                www.4plius.com

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                • dan_b
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                  • Sep 2003
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                  #9
                  Just replaced my anti-squeal shims in my front Brembos: have to say they were in a pretty bad state! Hopefully that'll cure the squeaking, and might have an impact on the ABS sensor. Well, I can hope anyway... If not, I'll be back asking more quesitons!
                  Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    pop out the sensors, clean and re-position them, you can fit new plastic caps to do this, while you're there blow out the teeth on the hub that the sensor "counts" they can become filled with rusty debris..

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                    • dan_b
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                      • Sep 2003
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                      #11
                      Where are they actually located? Anyone got a photo/diagram?
                      Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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