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  • gadget6970
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Jan 2010
    • 87
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    996 Brake Issues

    996 calipers on my s2 are getting hot under normal driving.Had to remove pads on drivers and clean up and relube about a month ago on route to our hols.it got so hot made steering wheel vibrate had to pull over and remove. luckly found some leather builders gloves at roadside so i could strip down without waiting hours to cool down.When first bought s2 a couple of years ago it had brake humming issues when driving and stopped when braking, every few weeks after trying various products to stop noise,silicone with copper in is doing the trick holding shims to pads and no humming.I have been running new disks and pads since october and for the 3rd time i,ve had this over heatng prob in the last few weeks on the drivers side and this time its both sides .i wonder if i need to file down more of the edge of the metal backing plate which the pads slides on in the caliper but if i over do it humming may come back to haunt me .
    Last edited by Rusty; 22 June 2013, 16:40.
  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Could be bleeding issue or you need to get some anti rattle shims
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • gadget6970
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      • Jan 2010
      • 87
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      it is blood and tears at mo lol

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Created a new thread for you

        The copper gasket does a good job of securing the anti rattle shims, so that's all good.

        When you took out the spring plate, was there much corrosion on it?

        Are all the pistons retracting OK?

        Another option is that the wheel bearings are getting old...
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • gadget6970
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          • Jan 2010
          • 87
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Thanks for that squire Wheel bearings have done 20,000 still no play,there isnt a spring plate on mine its a bit like figure of 8 retaining spring. theres a slight bit of corrosion under the stainless brake pad slider plates.large pistons move easily but smaller ones take a bit of moving.ive got motul 600 brake fluid to put in and aquired a brake bomb

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          • AndyP
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #6
            Originally posted by gadget6970
            Thanks for that squire Wheel bearings have done 20,000 still no play,there isnt a spring plate on mine its a bit like figure of 8 retaining spring. theres a slight bit of corrosion under the stainless brake pad slider plates.large pistons move easily but smaller ones take a bit of moving.ive got motul 600 brake fluid to put in and aquired a brake bomb
            If they've got stainless pad slider plates, they're not 996 calipers. You got any pictures?
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            • gadget6970
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              • Jan 2010
              • 87
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              calipers

              here some pics of my calipers
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              • 4WheelDrifter
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Oct 2004
                • 5773
                • Country: Devon

                #8
                They're not 996 calipers.

                Does the brake pedal feel ok? Not long or anything?
                SS

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                • gadget6970
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  pedal feels fine.Do you know what callipers they are bud ?

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                  • AndyP
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6049
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    They look like 'Big blacks' or Porsche 928.
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                    • mcandmar
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5118
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #11
                      Look like 993 calipers, common problem is corrosion under the stainless pad mounts which in turn wedges the pads in place.
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                      • gadget6970
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                        • Jan 2010
                        • 87
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I think that could be the problem ,i did try to undo allen bolt once but allen key started to slip so left it just wanted to clean up brake dust a bit more thoroughly but thats me being ott.Is it a good idea to remove slider plates to clean or is it going to cause more probs.allen bolts dont have much depth in them
                        Last edited by gadget6970; 22 June 2013, 20:20.

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                        • 4WheelDrifter
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 5773
                          • Country: Devon

                          #13
                          i think you should strip them down and clean them up, check for corrosion and so on.
                          Don't use n allen key. Use a hammer to 'wake up' the bolts, then get a good sized breaker bar on them.
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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            I originally posted that they might be 993s that had gone south but was told they were 996s...

                            Sell them on and buy some secondhand 996s, although that's not necessarily foolproof.
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                            • AndyP
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6049
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by gadget6970
                              I think that could be the problem ,i did try to undo allen bolt once but allen key started to slip so left it just wanted to clean up brake dust a bit more thoroughly but thats me being ott.Is it a good idea to remove slider plates to clean or is it going to cause more probs.allen bolts dont have much depth in them
                              If you're talking about the small allen bolts that hold the slider plates in place, the best way to get them out is to weld a new bolt to the top of them, had to do this a few times and it's never failed.
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                              1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                              1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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