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  • zlobo
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    • Jan 2004
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    • Country: Sweden

    #46
    Originally posted by kninio
    but so or so i cant have wires from the concert 2 to connect to the autocheck system right?
    I am not shure havent tryed it out.


    Originally posted by kninio
    the gamma cd came in audi 80 v6 , i took it off cause when i put cd inside it i figure the generous first owner take off the mechanical system from it , so it was empty cave , but i think the first gamma which is show here the cd have the same system for cd.

    Zlobo , do u know some one who sale canbus adapter for a fair price?
    there is a lot of them on ebay.
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    • zlobo
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      • Jan 2004
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      #47
      Originally posted by HPmuirt
      That is interesting.

      My S2 was fitted with a pioneer stereo by the UK dealer who sold it ans all speakers worked. When I removed that stereo and plugged in a new pioneer, all 4 speakers still worked.

      However, when I installed the original Gamma CC, only the fron speakers work

      Any ideas why?

      Cheers n

      Si
      the gama have only built amp for the front spekers. and low level out on the red connector. or you need the active speakers that was standard when you had a gamma instaled by facktory.
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      • john881000
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        • May 2004
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        #48
        hi all

        tried out my radio concert 11 on car

        no joy
        tried all parts of auto check and chips..............no joy


        is it because the concert 11 radio is in can-bus???....that the info goes to A4 dash....................and my dash isnt conpaterable??


        any ideas please

        cheers
        john

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        • HPmuirt
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          • Apr 2005
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          #49
          Originally posted by zlobo
          the gama have only built amp for the front spekers. and low level out on the red connector. or you need the active speakers that was standard when you had a gamma instaled by facktory.
          Ah, so does that mean that the red connector leads to an amp somewhere for the rear speakers? I do not seem to have a red connector, so does that mean that I do not have amplified rears and therefore the gamma CC will not work?

          If that is the case, do we know which Audi units will run in my car?

          Cheers n

          Si
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          • kninio
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            • Aug 2004
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            #50
            Originally posted by john881000
            tried out my radio concert 11 on car

            no joy
            tried all parts of auto check and chips..............no joy


            is it because the concert 11 radio is in can-bus???....that the info goes to A4 dash....................and my dash isnt conpaterable??


            any ideas please

            cheers
            john

            Hmm , which one is the concert 11? i bought concert 2 and its in the way to me next monday ill recieve it i hope and i wanna install it in A4 but, ? it also from the story of the canbus and the wolf , so do u think i will find the wires which gets out of it to the autocheck system?

            Could some body confirm if it have seperate pins for the rds display , or they get out via the canbus?


            any body used the concert 2? is that true the illumination doesnt works and it must be connected from inside?

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            • zlobo
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              • Jan 2004
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              #51
              Originally posted by john881000
              tried out my radio concert 11 on car

              no joy
              tried all parts of auto check and chips..............no joy


              is it because the concert 11 radio is in can-bus???....that the info goes to A4 dash....................and my dash isnt conpaterable??


              any ideas please

              cheers
              john
              communication goes via canbus on those it does on my a3 i tested it.
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              • zlobo
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                • Jan 2004
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                #52
                Originally posted by kninio



                Hmm , which one is the concert 11?
                Concert II = Concert 2

                Originally posted by kninio
                i bought concert 2 and its in the way to me next monday ill recieve it i hope and i wanna install it in A4 but, ? it also from the story of the canbus and the wolf , so do u think i will find the wires which gets out of it to the autocheck system?
                wich year is youra a4 form if it is 2000 there shuld be canbus i think.. you will se the mini iso connector shuld be there behind the stereo then, Consert II only have amp for front speakers, so you need an amp for the rear, you can buy an mini iso to rca,
                if youre A4 dont have can bus the stereo will turn it self of after 1h, if you have you have to disconect the battery, if youre lucky it will work with youre can bus otherwise you have to use vagcom. you can also set some flags via can bus vith vagcom you can turn on bose it will display bose in the display.

                Originally posted by kninio
                Could some body confirm if it have seperate pins for the rds display , or they get out via the canbus?


                any body used the concert 2? is that true the illumination doesnt works and it must be connected from inside?
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                2009 1/4 Mile ET 11.92 213Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437WHp
                2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
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                • zlobo
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by HPmuirt
                  Ah, so does that mean that the red connector leads to an amp somewhere for the rear speakers? I do not seem to have a red connector, so does that mean that I do not have amplified rears and therefore the gamma CC will not work?

                  If that is the case, do we know which Audi units will run in my car?

                  Cheers n

                  Si
                  On the S2 coupe the amp's are located on the rear speakers. dont kow how it is on avant and sedan.

                  yes there it wont work. but i think it will if you buy a cheap amp and then by the red connector and mmake a an adapter with rca connectors.. that was my idea.. if i find an original gamma cd player for s2. or els i will stick with the gamma cc and make some line in or somthing.
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                  2009 1/4 Mile ET 11.92 213Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437WHp
                  2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
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                  • kninio
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                    • Aug 2004
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by zlobo
                    Concert II = Concert 2



                    wich year is youra a4 form if it is 2000 there shuld be canbus i think.. you will se the mini iso connector shuld be there behind the stereo then, Consert II only have amp for front speakers, so you need an amp for the rear, you can buy an mini iso to rca,
                    if youre A4 dont have can bus the stereo will turn it self of after 1h, if you have you have to disconect the battery, if youre lucky it will work with youre can bus otherwise you have to use vagcom. you can also set some flags via can bus vith vagcom you can turn on bose it will display bose in the display.

                    my a4 is year 96, so i dont have canbus?

                    which year is your a3? does it have canbus or you used external one?

                    i think my rear speakers have a built in amp? they are still the oem one..

                    I use now skoda symphony , and it turn itself off every one hour.

                    if i get the canbus adapter , will ill be able to connect it some where in the car that will allow me to connect the vag com to it?

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                    • zlobo
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by kninio
                      my a4 is year 96, so i dont have canbus?
                      to 99% no

                      Originally posted by kninio
                      which year is your a3? does it have canbus or you used external one?
                      my a3 is a 03 and it have i think audi started from 99 or 00 with canbus i am not 100 shure%

                      Originally posted by kninio
                      i think my rear speakers have a built in amp? they are still the oem one..

                      I use now skoda symphony , and it turn itself off every one hour.

                      if i get the canbus adapter , will ill be able to connect it some where in the car that will allow me to connect the vag com to it?
                      then you need a can bus adapter for youre skoda stereo,
                      i am not shure if you will be able but you culd try.
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                      2004 1/4 Mile ET 12.00 191Km/h @1,5Bar
                      2009 1/4 Mile ET 11.92 213Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437WHp
                      2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
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                      • john881000
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                        • May 2004
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                        #56
                        daigram

                        hi

                        does that explain why with my new radio i cant get display up???

                        if i get old gamma radio as shown in piucture my display will work???



                        cheers

                        john

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                        • valjo
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1110
                          • Country: Latvia

                          #57
                          btw
                          did you know that we could also put audi delta radio from audi cabrio or rs2 to audi s2?
                          all we need is to change some parts in console (parts is available from audi dealer). Audi delta radio has also cdchanger control and ofcourse RDS function. I was thinking to buy this radio for mine s2 some years ago, but i find out that gamma cd fits better in coupe
                          This radios is quite hard to find but there is some on ebay right now:

                          http://cgi.ebay.de/Originales-Audi-D...QQcmdZViewItem

                          and

                          http://cgi.ebay.de/Audi-Radio-Delta-...QQcmdZViewItem


                          ps. if anyone need any other informations about how to put audi delta radio in coupe fell free to contact me via pms
                          Last edited by valjo; 13 January 2007, 10:06.
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                          Audi V8 4.2 1993
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                          • kday
                            S2Forum Tinkerer
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 5

                            #58
                            A few notes on the radio display:
                            - The Gamma or Gamma/Bose radio has three outputs which can be connected to the autocheck display. Here is a diagram of how they connect from the factory (ignore the TDS-1 splices; mentally connect yellow to yellow, etc.):



                            This is from a 1994 C4 wiring diagram. Some C4s that came with a Delta radio in the states have half of this wiring in place -- from the instrument cluster to a connector behind the radio. The delta radio does not have a compatible display protocol. At least some 1997 C4s do not have the wiring in place from the instrument cluster.

                            FWIW. I don't know how this translates to the B4.

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                            • Joop
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                              • May 2015
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                              • Country: Germany

                              #59
                              Originally posted by kday
                              A few notes on the radio display:
                              - The Gamma or Gamma/Bose radio has three outputs which can be connected to the autocheck display. Here is a diagram of how they connect from the factory (ignore the TDS-1 splices; mentally connect yellow to yellow, etc.):



                              This is from a 1994 C4 wiring diagram. Some C4s that came with a Delta radio in the states have half of this wiring in place -- from the instrument cluster to a connector behind the radio. The delta radio does not have a compatible display protocol. At least some 1997 C4s do not have the wiring in place from the instrument cluster.

                              FWIW. I don't know how this translates to the B4.
                              Hello,

                              i have a '97 C4 with Delta CC head unit i tried also connecto to autocheck with 3 wires data,clock,enabled but it does not show the radio station on Autocheck display.I am not sure if there is a communication error or whatever.

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