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  • rallyejames
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Apr 2008
    • 129
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Hid????

    Hi There,
    I want to upgrade the h/lights in the Rs2....Did the same with the golf Rallye and they made a vast inprovment.
    What bulb size do i need?
    Many thanks
  • GT500
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2006
    • 2181
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    H1. Mine has them, superb!
    Rob..
    94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
    87 UR 20v ABY
    97 S6 Avant
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    • Crawford_S2
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1555
      • Home: Scotland Current: England

      #3
      Yarp, H1 it is. Like night and day
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      • rallyejames
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Apr 2008
        • 129
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Do i need to get H1 hid's?

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        • EspenW
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Apr 2007
          • 1534
          • Country: Norway

          #5
          Notes on retrofitting HIDs into halogen housing (check the video from British television):




          I skipped the HIDs and installed relays and fat gauge wire. I also upped the voltage at the voltage regulator to 15.3v (provides more juice for the ignition and fuel pump as well). A brutal 15v at the bulb with this setup, vs less than 13v at the bulb with standard setup. Amazing light output, HID like power and whiteness, but totally legal and safe (HID in halogen housing gives stray light, see link above).
          1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
          1994 80E Avant
          1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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          • Bowlerwell
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2005
            • 1052
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            Interesting info there.
            John Bowlerwell
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            • rallyejames
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Apr 2008
              • 129
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              All Orded!!!!! just got to find room for the Ballast packs? have gone for 8000's??
              Got to be an improvement on the o.e's?

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                8000k?

                Hmm will attract some police interest!

                6000-6500 is the best colour

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                • terrybullwon
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8782
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  8000k?

                  Hmm will attract some police interest!

                  6000-6500 is the best colour
                  There going to be alittle blue'ish... My friend has then in his evo on dipped and main.
                  Chef

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    Goood info from Espen again here... Couple of observations from my experience -

                    1. I noticed an improvement of my dipped HIDs over stock lights when I fitted them
                    2. Its still not a great set of lights - compared to factory xenons in our Allroad
                    3. I've never failed the beam test at MOT - they perform that test here so the scatter is not so excessive that it fails the test
                    4. I rarely get flashed with the HIDs on, but it happens occasionally

                    The main beams are standard halogen and light the path to as far as I can ask. The mains are amazingly good.

                    In the past I fitted a relayed hi-power loom to my old T85 GT with 100W bulbs and it was fantastic. With this info from Espen I'd be game to try a similar trick. Not sure about the uprated Vreg though - not strictly necessary with beefier cable and relays up front to reduce voltage drop at the bulbs IMO.

                    Paul


                    Originally posted by EspenW
                    Notes on retrofitting HIDs into halogen housing (check the video from British television):




                    I skipped the HIDs and installed relays and fat gauge wire. I also upped the voltage at the voltage regulator to 15.3v (provides more juice for the ignition and fuel pump as well). A brutal 15v at the bulb with this setup, vs less than 13v at the bulb with standard setup. Amazing light output, HID like power and whiteness, but totally legal and safe (HID in halogen housing gives stray light, see link above).
                    Paul Nugent
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                    • fivepotnoodle
                      S2Forum Buff
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 48

                      #11
                      That video on the daniel stern site is a bit misleading. It only shows HID's fitted to a reflector based headlamp, whereas the car next to it with OEM fitted HID is projector based

                      HID + reflector = crap, light scattered all over the place and a very poor defined cutoff.
                      HID + projector = miles better, with a good very well defined beam pattern and cutoff.

                      But as is always the case, they only show what they want to show

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #12
                        Agreed on that - I have projector / ellipsoid lights of course - thats why it passes the MOT, but they just don't give a nice crisp dipped beam... Compare to more modern optics on the Allroad.
                        Paul Nugent
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                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                        • EspenW
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1534
                          • Country: Norway

                          #13
                          Originally posted by S2central.net
                          In the past I fitted a relayed hi-power loom to my old T85 GT with 100W bulbs and it was fantastic. With this info from Espen I'd be game to try a similar trick. Not sure about the uprated Vreg though - not strictly necessary with beefier cable and relays up front to reduce voltage drop at the bulbs IMO.
                          Light output increases with increasing voltage to the 3.2 power.. but bulb life is decreased to the 12th power...
                          The 15v that I have at the bulb eats bulbs, burned a set of Nightbreakers in less than 15hours.. Standard bulbs last much longer, and at that voltage still gives amazing output.
                          Make sure the the voltage regulator provides 14.4v at the battery.
                          1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                          1994 80E Avant
                          1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                          • EspenW
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1534
                            • Country: Norway

                            #14
                            Originally posted by terrybullwon
                            There going to be alittle blue'ish... My friend has then in his evo on dipped and main.
                            Lower temperature rating actually means more light output. The new, yellowish 3000K xenons give the most lumens. OEM HIDS are 4300K, white light.
                            6K is more blue with less light output, while higher temps means less light and more purple shade.
                            1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                            1994 80E Avant
                            1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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