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  • 220bhp
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Nov 2004
    • 2578
    • Home: United Kingdom

    #1

    S2 sunroof stopped working

    The sunroof on the S2 just stopped working ,windows still working and the light on the sunroof control panel still work,dont know if it shares the same fuse or not. Any ideas.
  • DarrenM
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2007
    • 1227
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I've had my tilt pack up when it was open,ended up taking switch panel off and shutting it manually (with the allan key that should be under it), touch wood - its worked fine since then, think mine must have been the motor seized/stuck interim.

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    • johne
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Apr 2007
      • 1406
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      If it's a pre-selector sunroof it has a seperate thermal fuse (S83) to the windows (S43), both rated at 20Amps. So it would be worth waiting to see if resets and works again once the fuse has had a chance to cool and reset.

      There is a link between the window and sunroof controllers but I assume that's so the window controller can give the roof the same flexibility the windows have to work after the ignition is switched off etc. Otherwise the roof is independent.

      The light in the roof has nothing to do with the roof motor. The roof motor is easy to access. The cover just clips into the roof lining. Pull down gently on the edge nearest the windscreen and it will swing down. You can check for power to the motor and at the least use the key to manually operate the roof.

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      • S-Express
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Nov 2006
        • 1133
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

        #4
        Originally posted by 220bhp
        The sunroof on the S2 just stopped working ,windows still working and the light on the sunroof control panel still work,dont know if it shares the same fuse or not. Any ideas.
        I had this problem on my passat - turned out it was a bust wire in the bit by the door hinge on the pass side - I know the sunroof has nothing to do with the pass door but thats what it was! - so I advise pulling the rubber boots back on the looms where they enter the doors and check for breakages....
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        • 220bhp
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Nov 2004
          • 2578
          • Home: United Kingdom

          #5
          Finally found the time to try and see why the sunroof stopped working,checked the wiring in the door hinge all seems OK checked all the fuses in fuse box under the bonnet,all seemed OK, unclipped the control panel in the roof and checked the wiring,then I operated the sunroof manually with the Allen key to see if it made any difference all to no avail.What else should I try. I there a separate relay for the sunroof alone,or a fuse some where else maybe.
          Any help would be appreciated

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #6
            What year and type of car here - then I can help you thru the schematics on this one...

            Is it an ordinary (button) type or the preselect (dial) type ?
            Paul Nugent
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            • 220bhp
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Nov 2004
              • 2578
              • Home: United Kingdom

              #7
              Chears Paul,its a 1991 3B coupe with a pre:select dial.

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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #8
                OK - with reference to this - http://www.s2central.net/S2_Schematics/D/D37.PDF - its for MY92 but eminently usable...

                Thermal fuse S83 is a candidate alright (as Johne said). That J245 relay controller is actually integrated with the motor assembly. If you pop open the cover for the sunroof motor (where the hand crank is) you can disconnect it via a single 5-pin plug then a few screws removes it - only do this with sunroof fully closed.

                That 5-pin plug has four active wires I can see - labelled 1-2-4-5 on the schematic with other denominations on J245. This means pin 3 on the plug should be empty.

                With ignition off, check that you see 12V between pins 4 (red/black) and 2 (brown). If you do that means the thermal fuse is alive.

                Then with ignition on, check you see 12V between pins 1 (blue/black) and 2. That proves feed on Fuse 12 is OK.


                NEXT - you need to lash up some cable and a 30A fuse to apply directly to the 2-pin connector on the sunroof motor from a 12V power supply. This is the 2-pin blue and purple wires you'll see. One polarity turns it clockwise, tother anticlock - that'll prove your motor hasn't seized up and a problem exists in the switch.

                Theres other tedious tests for the switch which I'll get to if necessary - I have all the data in front of me here. Lets see how you get on - may not need this yet.

                Paul
                Paul Nugent
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                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                • 220bhp
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2578
                  • Home: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Ihave taken the motor of and and wired it up and it works ok,but there is no power to any of the wires that feed the motor ,so are the fuses or relay if there is one located under the dash if so what are there numbers,because I cannot find anything next to the motor.

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    sounds to me like blown fuse. Thermal fuses at bottom of aux relay carrier... Wee silver body things.

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                    Paul Nugent
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                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                    There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                    • Acidburn
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 13459
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      lou - i've got to find one out for papvas tommorow, if I can i'll see if i've still got some spares lying around as i've got a loom for preselect (its different to normal push button switch type ) so will see if I can check the ratings and let you know if i've got one.

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                      • Jas11n
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5067
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                        2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                        1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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