Light weight geared starter motor for the 5 cylinder

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  • WidowmakerS2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Oct 2007
    • 354
    • Current: Norway

    #46
    Another question came up on the VACN forums:

    The original starter is 1.1 KW, the replacement is 2 KW. That would give it the extra torque to crank the engine faster. But is also means more current draw?
    If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

    -CQ 3b "S2".

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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #47
      Originally posted by WidowmakerS2
      Another question came up on the VACN forums:

      The original starter is 1.1 KW, the replacement is 2 KW. That would give it the extra torque to crank the engine faster. But is also means more current draw?
      Thats a good question.

      One i asked my self. Its to do with the gearing. It will draw less to start no mater the size of the motor. These are made for race cars with small batteries to do one of grid starts.
      Chef

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      • quattro84
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Mar 2006
        • 947
        • Country: Netherlands

        #48
        Depends of the operating voltage during cranking events.. It'll find it's equilibrium. Curves are supplied in the PDF Chef posted earlier.
        Assume voltage dropping to 9 volts =>200A =>5Nm meaning around 1800rpm starting speed resulting in around 1kW starting power, making it around 55% efficient according to their graph

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        • 5cylinderman
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          • Oct 2011
          • 367
          • Country: Ireland

          #49
          Brise starter motors

          One note regarding the Brise starter motors. They are quite noisy. I fitted one to a 1600 crossflow engined Anglia a while back. It sounds good but when you're starting the car in the middle of Tesco's car park people will look in your direction......

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          • AQTdriver
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jan 2011
            • 750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            many takers?
            '93 S2 Avant breaking
            '95 S6 Avant sold
            '83 80 Quattro SWB
            '85 90 Quattro
            '85 200 Quattro 10V sold

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #51
              Pretty much got the 5 which is great
              Chef

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              • Henkjan
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Aug 2003
                • 1705
                • Country: Netherlands

                #52
                Originally posted by terrybullwon
                I'd say the money would be better spent on something else with a road car ...
                so you seen no benefit in a higher cranking speed?

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                • terrybullwon
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8782
                  • Country: England

                  #53
                  If you have a tuned motor sure why not, if you have cams with higher lift or over lap it will help, again with colder conditions sure why not.
                  Chef

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                  • AQTdriver
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    How is it looking for the end of this month?
                    Any dates/more takers?
                    '93 S2 Avant breaking
                    '95 S6 Avant sold
                    '83 80 Quattro SWB
                    '85 90 Quattro
                    '85 200 Quattro 10V sold

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                    • terrybullwon
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 8782
                      • Country: England

                      #55
                      I am ready guess its time to really dig in on this one
                      Chef

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                      • terrybullwon
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 8782
                        • Country: England

                        #56
                        Originally posted by terrybullwon
                        I am ready guess its time to really dig in on this one
                        I'll get out a PM tomorrow regarding this one. Is been a long day at work
                        Chef

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                        • terrybullwon
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 8782
                          • Country: England

                          #57
                          Guys if your still interested and serious about one of these. Please can you drop me a email to

                          terrybullwon@yahoo.com

                          Then we can start the ball rolling i have another 4 orders for these from off the forum so we might make 10 yet.
                          Chef

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                          • butchone
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 147
                            • Country: England

                            #58
                            Originally posted by terrybullwon
                            Guys if your still interested and serious about one of these. Please can you drop me a email to

                            terrybullwon@yahoo.com

                            Then we can start the ball rolling i have another 4 orders for these from off the forum so we might make 10 yet.
                            what ever happened to these? are they available? i did send a email but got no reply

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                            • Stiggen
                              S2Forum Tinkerer
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2
                              • Country: Sweden

                              #59
                              Im very intrested to but would want the outside mecherment wide/diameter
                              Had put a adu/aan in my escort Cosworth and full Nissan gtr drivetrain and its really tight between starter and front diff!

                              Best regards
                              Trust it sideways motorsport
                              http://www.garaget.org/Stiggen-TIS

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                              • Henkjan
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1705
                                • Country: Netherlands

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Stiggen
                                .... put a adu/aan in my escort Cosworth
                                have you got photos of that build?

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