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  • andyg plym
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2006
    • 4646
    • Country: England

    #16
    motor fuses checked twice now,first things i checked.

    do we all think its just coinsidense that when i wiggled the ecu it started?

    how can i check power to ecu? check one of the pins? typical my multi meter is fooked too.....what a day!

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    • UrS4boy
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Feb 2006
      • 11859
      • Country: Canada

      #17
      Originally posted by andyg plym
      how can i check power to ecu? check one of the pins? typical my multi meter is fooked too.....what a day!
      Pin 18. http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/21009.phtml



      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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      • ManiacuV6
        S2Forum Addict
        • Dec 2009
        • 458
        • Country: Romania

        #18
        IF you use a 1.2W bulb will be fine. BUT be careful at the pins and their location .
        Audi S4 2.2T 5 spd 1992 for parts
        AUDI A4 1.9TDI daily use

        Audi 80 Quattro 2.0 16V (ACE) aka Competition

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        • andyg plym
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2006
          • 4646
          • Country: England

          #19
          so lets look forward here,if no power to ecu what shall i check next?if there is power then what?

          il have a spare relay in my lockup but its just getting there,would use the wifes car but typical bad timing we leant it to the inlaws....

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          • andyg plym
            S2Forum Freak
            • Nov 2006
            • 4646
            • Country: England

            #20
            Anyone know why the code reader isnt being powered up by the obd ports? havent had chance to check power etc yet

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            • SteveH
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2003
              • 4460
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Originally posted by andyg plym
              Anyone know why the code reader isnt being powered up by the obd ports? havent had chance to check power etc yet
              OBD ports will be fed via the ECU. No power to ECU, no output to ports. I seem to remember I can hear a relay activating in my ECU when the key is turned on. Can you hear any life from it? This may save you fiddling around with multimeters or bulbs.
              91 Modded 3B
              14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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              • andyg plym
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2006
                • 4646
                • Country: England

                #22
                Originally posted by SteveH
                OBD ports will be fed via the ECU. No power to ECU, no output to ports. I seem to remember I can hear a relay activating in my ECU when the key is turned on. Can you hear any life from it? This may save you fiddling around with multimeters or bulbs.
                hi steve,im assuming the ecu is ok as this problem has been intermitent for a few days.
                i think firstly check power to ecu as peeps have mentioned as im fairly sure its a problem in that area.
                Before when i wiggled the ecu it would then start,then once started i would re wriggle and it would almost die...

                fekin cars!!

                p.s il check the fuel relay same time too,had no chance to check last night

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                • UrS4boy
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 11859
                  • Country: Canada

                  #23
                  Originally posted by UrS4boy
                  And obviously Pin 27 for switched power (at least on an AAN - and I think ABY)
                  RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                  94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                  • SteveH
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 4460
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by andyg plym
                    hi steve,im assuming the ecu is ok as this problem has been intermitent for a few days.
                    i think firstly check power to ecu as peeps have mentioned as im fairly sure its a problem in that area.
                    Before when i wiggled the ecu it would then start,then once started i would re wriggle and it would almost die...

                    fekin cars!!

                    p.s il check the fuel relay same time too,had no chance to check last night
                    When I did my pin swap the car wouldn't start afterwards. I took the connector off and all the pins looked ok. Stuck it back on and hey presto she fired up. Could be no more than a dodgy connector. I presume you've had the ECU off and clamped the connector back up a couple of times to make sure its seating properly?
                    91 Modded 3B
                    14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                    • andyg plym
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 4646
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SteveH
                      When I did my pin swap the car wouldn't start afterwards. I took the connector off and all the pins looked ok. Stuck it back on and hey presto she fired up. Could be no more than a dodgy connector. I presume you've had the ECU off and clamped the connector back up a couple of times to make sure its seating properly?
                      oh yes,made sure it sits alright etc

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                      • andyg plym
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4646
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Just got home and checked the relay,it clicks and closes as it should hold it closed you can hear fuel being pumped to injectors,can the relay now be ruled out ?

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                        • UrS4boy
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #27
                          Andy: I am confused as to what you have checked and eliminated (you seem to be going in circles a bit).

                          I suggest going back to the beginning and and methodically going through the list in this solutions to a non-starting AAN post (applies equally well to ABYs and ADUs):

                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                          • Monkeymagic
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 3419
                            • Country: England

                            #28
                            SOunds to me like a broken wire somewhere in the loom prior to the muliti plug to the ecu. You have said it looks like someone has been in there before. Take off the wrap and check the wires carefully and if in any doubt repair. the connectors used by VAG group have the shrink wrap built in. VAG charge about £2 each. Halfords sell them in a pack of 4 for about £1.50. Use these dont solder ( so i am told solder can increase the resistance ????)

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                            • andyg plym
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 4646
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              Andy: I am confused as to what you have checked and eliminated (you seem to be going in circles a bit).

                              I suggest going back to the beginning and and methodically going through the list in this solutions to a non-starting AAN post (applies equally well to ABYs and ADUs):

                              http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...hlight=reasons
                              hi dave,yes to be honest im frustrated as i seem to have no time to sort it out....i knew doing the relay would be a 2 second job,bless it,its trying to start even more now with fuel in the system,i even tried another relay that i managed to find tonight but to no avail.

                              I need time to sort it,but we all can vouch for being impatient in wanting them back on the road

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                              • andyg plym
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 4646
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Monkeymagic
                                SOunds to me like a broken wire somewhere in the loom prior to the muliti plug to the ecu. You have said it looks like someone has been in there before. Take off the wrap and check the wires carefully and if in any doubt repair. the connectors used by VAG group have the shrink wrap built in. VAG charge about £2 each. Halfords sell them in a pack of 4 for about £1.50. Use these dont solder ( so i am told solder can increase the resistance ????)
                                this is what im worried about,trying to find the culprit,theres lots of them down there and access isnt exactly great! Although someones been there before it all looks ok with regards to the connectors etc,i was hopeing it was just a wire that had pulled out somewhere.
                                No power to the obd plugs,which as i understand comes from a feed from/via the ecu.
                                At least it will narrow it down a bit i guess

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