Instrument Cluster Bulbs - again!

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  • CoupeWannabeS2
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    • Nov 2004
    • 403
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #46
    Just wondering - when fitting the LED's do you have to use any resistors or do you just attach the LED's as they are ???

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    • NoNonsense
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      • Apr 2004
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      • Home: Italy Current: United States

      #47
      Originally posted by CoupeWannabeS2
      Just wondering - when fitting the LED's do you have to use any resistors or do you just attach the LED's as they are ???
      you'll need resistors IIRC
      Joe "NoNonsense"
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      • Doug_RS2
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        • Jul 2003
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        • Home: Scotland Current: England

        #48
        You can buy LEDs with built in resistors specifically for 12v applications.

        What others have used in their clusters are LEDs with built in resistors with the proper holder that just screws in as a direct replacment for the standard bulbs.
        S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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        • AAH!
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          • Jun 2004
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          • Home: United Kingdom Current: Bhutan

          #49
          Inspired by this thread I've just replaced most of my cluster bulbs including the ones that didn't need replacing.

          Ordered bulbs through VAGparts. They could only supply the orange based 12v 1.1w bulbs and the green based 2w bulbs. The black bottomed 1.2 w bulbs (imobiliser, hand break & air bag) and the blue bottomed 1.2w bulbs (indicators & high beem) did not seem to be availble.

          I didn't bother replacing the blue bottomed 1.2w bulbs (indicators & high beem) but replaced the black bottomed 1.2 w bulbs (imobiliser, hand break & air bag) with orange bottomed 1.1w bulbs.

          When evrything was put back I noticed that the imboliser light was coming on momentarily on starting the car (which is fine) and the air bag light now comes on for about 2 minutes before switching it self off.

          Is this normal?

          I don't think that the black bottomed bulbs where blown (according to my multi meter) so would the imboliser light and the air bag light be coming on now because I've been fideling around. Although unlikeley could it be because they now have 1.1w bulbs rather than 1.2w bulbs?

          Also wondering what this unused warning light is (see pic). Could it be used as part of the MIL circuit instaed of the "cabriolet" light. Seems more appropriate for blink codes somehow!
          Attached Files
          formally RS2 +

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          • NoNonsense
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            • Apr 2004
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            • Home: Italy Current: United States

            #50
            @ AAH!:
            last time I pulled my cluster to change a bulb, my airbag light started doing the same exact thing...it was weird.
            Eventually, I pulled out the airbags completely, so i also pulled the bulb.
            Joe "NoNonsense"
            axis motorsport
            joe@axismotorsport.com

            "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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            • CoupeWannabeS2
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              • Nov 2004
              • 403
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              #51
              Thankis for your comments on fitting LED's. I am keen to improve the look of the VDO gauges and found this on Ebay.

              http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...524138377&rd=1

              Rather than buy a kit - I purchased 10 bright blue LED's and resistors so will have a go at making my own blue VDO's. As a final question, does the LED need 1 resistor joined to both legs of the LED, or do you connect 1 resistor to 1 leg of the LED ???

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              • porkkis
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Aug 2003
                • 1994
                • Country: Finland

                #52
                Originally posted by AAH!
                Also wondering what this unused warning light is (see pic). Could it be used as part of the MIL circuit instaed of the "cabriolet" light. Seems more appropriate for blink codes somehow!
                That's an indicator for trailer indicators working. If you have a trailer hook and harness and trailer hooked that will blink with normal green arrows.

                Cars originally sold to Italy (as mine) have a "lights on" indicator in that position.
                -

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                • Mark Halligan
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2001
                  • Country: England

                  #53
                  Originally posted by newsh
                  How many leds did you need Mark? Was it really 15 for the dash?
                  John I think I used about 8 for the dash backlight and 2 in the illumination for the computer, but I bought 15.
                  Mark - Modded

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                  • Mark Halligan
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2001
                    • Country: England

                    #54
                    Originally posted by NoNonsense
                    Have you got any pics of the cluster at night?

                    Yep but its not a good pic though
                    Attached Files
                    Mark - Modded

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                    • Mark Halligan
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2001
                      • Country: England

                      #55
                      Originally posted by NoNonsense
                      you'll need resistors IIRC

                      I think they do, here's one I pulled apart:
                      Attached Files
                      Mark - Modded

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                      • newsh
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Mark Halligan
                        John I think I used about 8 for the dash backlight and 2 in the illumination for the computer, but I bought 15.
                        Thanks Mark!

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                        • newsh
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                          • Aug 2003
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                          #57
                          Crikey! the blue ones are twice the price, hope it looks nice :-/

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                          • Doug_RS2
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            • Home: Scotland Current: England

                            #58
                            They look handmade - no wonder they are expensive. One leg has a diode on it - probably becasue LED son't like 12v reverse voltage - for when you connect them the wrong way round.
                            S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                            • AAH!
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                              • Jun 2004
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                              #59
                              Do the LED's dim when you twiddle the dash dimmer knob?
                              formally RS2 +

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                              • Pete_RS2
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 800

                                #60
                                Do the cheaper LEDs suggested by Fourrings not fit then Mark ? Is the colour more red like the dash switch illumination ?
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