differens on the heads?

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  • Roer_S
    S2Forum Buff
    • Feb 2004
    • 40

    #1

    differens on the heads?

    Are the 7A head and the 3b head the same? without the cams offcourse.
    Audi S4 avant
    Audi S2 coupe
    x-Dodge Ram 3500 Big Duley
    x-Audi A4 TQ
    x-Audi S4 sedan
    x-Audi S2 coupe
  • aelred
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2005
    • 761
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Water manifold below IM is different, can be machined to take turbo water manifold, I believe exhaust valve are different ( sodium filled on 3B). The rest pretty much the same
    Aelred

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    • RSCoupe
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Dec 2003
      • 120
      • Country: United States

      #3
      7A also has sodium filled valves. The only difference is the water manifold, and the 7A only has 2 studs per exhaust port.
      Mark Siggelkow

      '90 CQ 20vT - NASA GTS-5 (R.I.P.)
      '90 CQ-R - NASA GTS-4/5
      '00 A4 1.8TQMS (Wife's Daily Driver)
      '12 TT-RS (Wife's new DD, on order for May European delivery)
      '62 Porsche 356B (another race car)
      '03 Kawasaki Z1000 (toy)

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      • martinjs
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jul 2003
        • 3205
        • Country: England

        #4
        Originally posted by RSCoupe
        the 7A only has 2 studs per exhaust port.
        Not all of them, i have a 7a head and the studs are the same as the S2, seen a few like this.

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        • Doug_RS2
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jul 2003
          • 3847
          • Home: Scotland Current: England

          #5
          I have 2 7A heads and they have the same studs as the ABY.

          I also thought the 7A valves were sodium filled
          S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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          • martinjs
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Jul 2003
            • 3205
            • Country: England

            #6
            Originally posted by Doug_RS2

            I also thought the 7A valves were sodium filled
            They are, i cut one in half and threw it in a bucket of water to see
            Thats how you are supposed to dispose of them.

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            • WabTheKing
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2004
              • 2567
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              i bent 10 of them, was that not the proper way to dispose of em?!

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              • SteveH
                Super Moderator
                • Jul 2003
                • 4460
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                So...it appears that the 7A head can be used with just the machining for the water manifold. I have one with all the studs, like the 3B/ABY. I would like to get a nice valve job done prior to removing the head off my 3B, but I'd been concerned about the valves because they have a different part number. They are definately sodium filled, so what's the difference? Is anyone running a complete 7A head with high HP??
                91 Modded 3B
                14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                • martinjs
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3205
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  lol, of course, but i mean before chucking them in the bin.

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Sodium valves aren't meant for Turbo cars, because they conduct heat better than a standard valve they in general require that the head requires extra cooling!

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                    • RSCoupe
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 120
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      Originally posted by martinjs
                      Not all of them, i have a 7a head and the studs are the same as the S2, seen a few like this.
                      Did those heads have the cast manifold? Both of mine had the tubular manifold.

                      Learn something new every day...
                      Mark Siggelkow

                      '90 CQ 20vT - NASA GTS-5 (R.I.P.)
                      '90 CQ-R - NASA GTS-4/5
                      '00 A4 1.8TQMS (Wife's Daily Driver)
                      '12 TT-RS (Wife's new DD, on order for May European delivery)
                      '62 Porsche 356B (another race car)
                      '03 Kawasaki Z1000 (toy)

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                      • martinjs
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3205
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Not sure which manifold they had, thats maybe why they are different then.

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                        • SteveH
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4460
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Cast manifold on the one I had.
                          91 Modded 3B
                          14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                          • Doug_RS2
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3847
                            • Home: Scotland Current: England

                            #14
                            I was wrong - just checked - the ones with the cast exhaust manifold have all the studs. The ones with the tubular manifold have 2 studs per port. A bit more machining required on the tubular manifold heads then.

                            Tubular:
                            Attached Files
                            S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                            • Doug_RS2
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3847
                              • Home: Scotland Current: England

                              #15
                              And Cast:
                              Attached Files
                              S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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