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  • charlie
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jan 2004
    • 447

    #1

    broken piston ring

    What r the symptoms of a broken piston ring and what is the best way
    to change it.
    i.e take the head off to remove piston or
    leave head on and remove crank from the bottom.

    is it worth just replacing broken ring or doing the whole lot including
    crank shells.
    RS2 MTM
  • ottawa coupe
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Nov 2004
    • 851
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    dunno what the symtoms are, so i can't tell you what's wrong, but if you think there's something wrong with the bottom end, i certainly feel your pain having gone through similar trials recently.

    having had my coupe sitting motionless for about 6 months in my garage i can confidently say that if you have to get at the bottom end or need to replace pistons etc... it's better to take the engine out and put it on a stand and do the work. it's only another hour or so to take the front end off.

    your hands will thank you!
    1993 UrS4...aka the rocket powered living room

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    • charlie
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jan 2004
      • 447

      #3
      Spoke to Quattro Concepts and they said u could not tell by driving. has anybody
      known of piston rings to break. Apparently it's common on high boost cars.
      RS2 MTM

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      • philS2
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        • Nov 2004
        • 356
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        i've snapped four top compression rings on a 10valve engine by dropping a gear to early and it smoked a lot and obviously used a lot of oil.

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        • philS2
          S2Forum Addict
          • Nov 2004
          • 356
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          also you'll have to take the head off,as the pistons come out the top.because you can't compress the rings to put them in from the bottom.

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          • charlie
            S2Forum Addict
            • Jan 2004
            • 447

            #6
            Originally posted by philS2
            i've snapped four top compression rings on a 10valve engine by dropping a gear to early and it smoked a lot and obviously used a lot of oil.
            Did you replace the lot and did you have to run the car in. what ere the symptoms.
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            • Doug_RS2
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              • Jul 2003
              • 3847
              • Home: Scotland Current: England

              #7
              If you pull one out to replace the rings, you will need to re-hone that cylinder - and it is best to remove the block for that otherwise you get metal everywhere!

              You'll need the head off and the sump off to pop the piston out anyway - halfway there to pulling the block!

              I thought you just had an engine rebuild?
              S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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              • charlie
                S2Forum Addict
                • Jan 2004
                • 447

                #8
                Originally posted by Doug_RS2
                If you pull one out to replace the rings, you will need to re-hone that cylinder - and it is best to remove the block for that otherwise you get metal everywhere!

                You'll need the head off and the sump off to pop the piston out anyway - halfway there to pulling the block!

                I thought you just had an engine rebuild?

                Rebuilt top half did not touch the block. Never needed to as
                i've never had to out of the last 6 audis i've had.
                It's just amaising that with the same symptoms different
                companies/ mechanics quote different jobs/solution.
                What really cooks my noodles is that i can't put my finger on it
                and like others here i must know the cause and cure to this intermittent
                and curious smoke issue that tends to attack some cars after rebuilt with
                hy-brid turbos???
                To me it's a gremlin
                but i'm conducting another leak down test this afternoon.
                will keep u informed
                RS2 MTM

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                • charlie
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 447

                  #9
                  Where r the engine gurus when u need them??? :mischeif:
                  can anyone cast some hard evidence or facts regarding the block???

                  PS: this is not a dig at anyone and no need to grind ur axes,
                  i just seem to be chasing my own tail on this issue
                  RS2 MTM

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                  • philS2
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 356
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by charlie
                    Rebuilt top half did not touch the block. Never needed to as
                    i've never had to out of the last 6 audis i've had.
                    It's just amaising that with the same symptoms different
                    companies/ mechanics quote different jobs/solution.
                    What really cooks my noodles is that i can't put my finger on it
                    and like others here i must know the cause and cure to this intermittent
                    and curious smoke issue that tends to attack some cars after rebuilt with
                    hy-brid turbos???
                    To me it's a gremlin
                    but i'm conducting another leak down test this afternoon.
                    will keep u informed
                    do you mean by leak down test-filling the cylinder with compressed air?

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