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  • valjo
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2003
    • 1110
    • Country: Latvia

    #1

    100 octan gas

    i would like to ask what kind of gas are you using in yours s2? in manual it is recomidented to use 98 octan gas. There is also 100 octan gas available in my country, so should i use it? what should be difference?
    Audi Coupe S2 1993
    Audi V8 4.2 1993
    Audi cabrio 1998
  • Erikb
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2004
    • 648
    • Country: Netherlands

    #2
    I dont think you will notice a big difference. I believe you have to rewrite your chip to notice some real difference.
    Getting everything sorted out for my 5++ hp project

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    • robo
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Aug 2004
      • 2086
      • Home: Poland Current: England

      #3
      Originally posted by Erikb
      I dont think you will notice a big difference. rewrite your chip to notice .
      You will notice big diffrence if you jump from 98 to 100 shell racing as long is its true v-power. 100 shell racing from germany is owsome but identical petrol (so called 100 v-power) in Poland is like 94 octane petrol or more like diesel.
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      • MidnightBlueS2
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2005
        • 1653
        • Home: United States Current: Belgium

        #4
        Originally posted by valjo
        i would like to ask what kind of gas are you using in yours s2? in manual it is recomidented to use 98 octan gas. There is also 100 octan gas available in my country, so should i use it? what should be difference?
        Hi !

        I use 98 octane on a regular basis here in Belgium and the engine runs great on it... but I also go to Germany from time to time and I always fill up with either Shell V-Max 100 octane or Aral Ultimate 100.

        Can I tell there is a big difference on hard acceleration, no, but there's no denying that the engine runs silky, silky smooth when fed with 100 octane. Even less engine noise, seemingly better low end torque and even smoother idling than a purring kitten

        It's good stuff and well worth the extra cents !

        HTH,

        David
        Midnight Blue S2 - SOLD - 1993 S2 Avant

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        • dan_b
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Sep 2003
          • 3670
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #5
          In the UK we can now get 99 Octane petrol, which is nice. Along with others here, I've started using that on a regular basis and with a few tanksful through the engine I've noticed an improvement in throttle response and a bigger feeling of full boost coming on more quickly. Purely subjective of course as I've not had the car rolling roaded and a before and after comparason done, but I do remember that there was a thread where someone had done that, and there was something like 20bhp difference between 97 octane and Optimax (98 octane)?

          I was of the understanding that the Motronic ECU has adaptive capabilities so that if you run higher octane, the ECU can advance the timing, yielding more power...
          Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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          • valjo
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Aug 2003
            • 1110
            • Country: Latvia

            #6
            Originally posted by dan_b
            I was of the understanding that the Motronic ECU has adaptive capabilities so that if you run higher octane, the ECU can advance the timing, yielding more power...
            if that is true and if that is working in practise too it is great! i realy have to fill up my car with 100 octans next time!!
            Audi Coupe S2 1993
            Audi V8 4.2 1993
            Audi cabrio 1998

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            • renoks
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Oct 2005
              • 124

              #7
              ...yep., but can you imagine that in Ireland, the best what can you find is texaco 97 octane witch is not better than ordinary 95 (just price 30cnt plus!!!! than 95 ) and you will be very lucky, if you will find petrol station wich sells that kind of petrol. I live in third bigest city of IRL and here is just only ONE petrol station with 97 and not even daily..
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              • philS2
                S2Forum Addict
                • Nov 2004
                • 356
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                when i put optimax or some 99 octane it does'nt retard.but with 95 it does(because Minhea set it up that way).i don't think you'd get 20bhp between 97 and 98 would you?maybe 95 and 99.just seems toomuch or am i underestimating fuel potency?

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                • Audi_CQ
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 940
                  • Country: Norway

                  #9
                  Originally posted by philS2
                  when i put optimax or some 99 octane it does'nt retard.but with 95 it does(because Minhea set it up that way).i don't think you'd get 20bhp between 97 and 98 would you?maybe 95 and 99.just seems toomuch or am i underestimating fuel potency?
                  How does the ECU know what octane it is

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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    With low octane fuel engine pinks, ECU detects knock and reduces boost to avoid detonation and subsequent damage. If knocking continues it will throw in a bunch of extra fuel too.

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                    • Audi_CQ
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 940
                      • Country: Norway

                      #11
                      Originally posted by newsh
                      With low octane fuel engine pinks, ECU detects knock and reduces boost to avoid detonation and subsequent damage. If knocking continues it will throw in a bunch of extra fuel too.
                      OK, but does the ECU try to advance ignition until knock is detected everytime it's started? A stock engine is mapped for 98 isn't it? Can't imagine that there are much use in 100 if boost isn't increased

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