448-th boost leak question :)

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  • vprelovac
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Mar 2006
    • 70
    • Country: Yugoslavia

    #1

    448-th boost leak question :)

    Hello Boys,

    I have recently performed an upgrade of my 3B S2. Now is has 202 kW chip, de-cat pipes, new 2.5 bar sensor and stiffer wastegate spring.

    The car finally runs really nice but after a run with a g-tech where it showed 14.6 s time for quarter mile I was wondering if everything else was OK. So after installing a boost gauge I could measure these pressures:

    Idle -0.6 bar
    2nd gear: 0.9 bar @ 3000 falls to 0.7 @ 6000
    3rd,4th,5th: 1.1 bar @ 3000 falls to 0.7 @ 6000

    So after doing a search and reading some 100 out of 447 threads that showed up on search, I am wisely guessing a BOOST LEAK

    Now I am wondering what is the easiest way to test it in DIY mode. I do not have a special pressure test kit only some regular tools found around a regular workshop.

    What else to check if by chance everything seems to hold?

    On the bright side after I fix that I am thinking I will have another performance bump so

    Thanks and cheers all
    Audi S2 Coupe mods: grinning driver
  • Jonas_R
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jan 2004
    • 3780
    • Country: Denmark

    #2
    Why do you believe that you have a boost leak? If you get 1.1 bar boost in 3rd gear, i would say that you def. dont have a boost leak. If you dont experience suddenly cut off's where your face ends up in the windscreen then you def. dont have a boost leak.
    The numbers seems fine if you ask me, dont think a normal 3b boost to 1.1 bar.

    /Jonas R.
    Sleeper S2 Avant +450

    A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

    Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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    • dm80
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Apr 2005
      • 812
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      A stock 3B runs at ~0.8 bar. Chipped/re-mapped would be 1.1/1.2 - according to the guys at MRC. So as Jonas says - doubt you have a boost leak..

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      • vprelovac
        S2Forum Fanatic
        • Mar 2006
        • 70
        • Country: Yugoslavia

        #4
        We had another go last night... The wastegate spring was slightly adjusted so the max boost went to 1.2 bar around 3000 RPM. But it gradually falls down over the rev range to about 0.8 bar at 6000 RPM. Shouldn't it hold boost better then that?
        Audi S2 Coupe mods: grinning driver

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        • Jonas_R
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jan 2004
          • 3780
          • Country: Denmark

          #5
          Dont think it should hold max boost all the way, but I guess some of the chip guroes can answer that.

          /Jonas R.
          Sleeper S2 Avant +450

          A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

          Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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          • lune
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Jan 2005
            • 109
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Amended below
            Last edited by lune; 19 July 2006, 09:47.

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            • lune
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Jan 2005
              • 109
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              My understanding is that the chip is programmed the boost to drop off as you get into the higher revs. So what your describing sounds about right I would'nt go fiddling with the wastegate spring, as you could end up doing more harm than good

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              • dan_b
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Sep 2003
                • 3670
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #8
                The stock S2 turbo physically can't maintain full boost all the way to the red line, the tail off is normal. 1.1Bar is good for a chipped stock turbo, sounds like you're in good shape to me.
                Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                • HPmuirt
                  S2Forum April Fool
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 3014
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #9
                  Whilst everyone seems to have come to the conclusion that the car is boosting normally, I am wondering why the 1/4 mile times are down?

                  I run a stock ABY which recently did repeated 14.3s 1/4 miles, whilst the chipped cars seemed to be turning in 13.5s or lower.

                  Cheers n

                  Si
                  95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                  Subtle mods here and there


                  2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                  With every option available (except a towball)

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                  • vprelovac
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 70
                    • Country: Yugoslavia

                    #10
                    The car made 13.95 sec 1/4 mile and 5.75 sec 0-100 km/h last night on the third run (previous were all worse). That is not bad but I was expecting something in the range of 13.5 sec too that is why I suspected this 0.4 bar pressure drop first (from 1.2 - 0.8).

                    Any users of chipped 3B's can confirm this kind of pressure drop as normal?
                    Audi S2 Coupe mods: grinning driver

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                    • s2dude
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1631
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vprelovac
                      The car made 13.95 sec 1/4 mile and 5.75 sec 0-100 km/h last night on the third run (previous were all worse). That is not bad but I was expecting something in the range of 13.5 sec too that is why I suspected this 0.4 bar pressure drop first (from 1.2 - 0.8).

                      Any users of chipped 3B's can confirm this kind of pressure drop as normal?

                      Errmm....
                      A Gtech is not reliable enough to determine a "proper" 1/4 mile time.

                      You need to get to the strip and put some times down for definitive results.......

                      Sounds fine to me.

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                      • vprelovac
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 70
                        • Country: Yugoslavia

                        #12
                        I also got 25 seconds for 0-200 km/h. How does that stand in comaprison with other cars?
                        Audi S2 Coupe mods: grinning driver

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