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  • S2_avant 19930325
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2019
    • 648
    • Country: Sweden

    #1

    Idle valve info

    Hi , these 3 models of valve.
    0280140545 ,,,,,, 0280140525 and the one on the picture ,, what kind are they ?
    Idle solenoid PWM or idle solenoid PWM inverted or stepper ? idle valve e28 m535.jpg
    Attached Files
  • steve briance
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2014
    • 1455
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Bimetallic strip sliding a valve plate.

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    • S2_avant 19930325
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Mar 2019
      • 648
      • Country: Sweden

      #3
      I know that part , what are the idle valves called by name ?
      Idle solenoid PWM or idle solenoid PWM inverted or stepper ??

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      • steve briance
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Aug 2014
        • 1455
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        You asked what type they were!

        I'd imagine they may well be called a whole load of names - cold air valve, cold idle boost ETC. If it matters to call it the right name, research some diagrams for bosch K jetronic injection and see what bosch call it.

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        • Nuvo
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Nov 2003
          • 3825

          #5
          Bosch literature refers to it as an auxilliary-air valve or device.

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            They are neither, more a warm-up valve than an idle control valve, as there is no "control".
            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • johne
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Apr 2007
              • 1405
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              [QUOTE what kind are they ?
              Idle solenoid PWM or idle solenoid PWM inverted or stepper ?[/QUOTE]

              They are none of these, they're not for idle, they're not PWM, they're not stepper, they are good old fashioned analogue. As Alex says they are for warm up and during that time they supply extra air which also will cause extra fuel since the fuel flow flapper will be opened more by the extra air flow.

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              • steve briance
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Aug 2014
                • 1455
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                It appears its only the correct name sought

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                • johne
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1405
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Ah, sorry misunderstood. Auxiliary air regulator or sometimes Auxiliary air valve.

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                  • Bowie69
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 2675
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Always known as 'extra air valve' in the land rover world on flapper efi.

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                    • SSPRL
                      S2Forum Hobbyist
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 18
                      • Country: Ukraine

                      #11
                      PWM
                      2 pin - 1 coil 3 pin - 2 coils
                      Attached Files

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                      • S2_avant 19930325
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 648
                        • Country: Sweden

                        #12
                        Great info ,, so i have to change my idle valve.
                        Have that on my picture above
                        20210511_114520.jpg
                        I have these 2 ... the left one -0280140524 ..... the right one .. 0280140545.
                        They are both 3pins.
                        How do i check them if they work before i install and how is the wiring on the pins ?
                        I supose that you mean that these more of a idle solenoid ?
                        What brand and what do people buy when building a new engine ?

                        Its a e28 m535 with turbo.

                        Best Regards

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                        • Bowie69
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 2675
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Those are idle control valves, PWM driven, three pin has two coils, and potentially more stable than the two pin versions.

                          They are horrendously expensive to buy new, so doubt any does that, and just rely on second hand stuff.

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                          • S2_avant 19930325
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 648
                            • Country: Sweden

                            #14
                            Hmm .. how about the wiring ? what pin to what ?

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                            • SSPRL
                              S2Forum Hobbyist
                              • Aug 2020
                              • 18
                              • Country: Ukraine

                              #15

                              it depends on your ECU. some support 3 wire pwm, some require non-standard solutions

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