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  • Palin
    S2Forum Buff
    • Aug 2021
    • 45
    • Country: Sweden

    #1

    Timing belt 3B

    This has surely been discussed somewhere before, but i can’t seem to find any viable answer.

    Stock timing belt is coming up a little on the slack side after head and bottom was levelled. Anyone got tips for a different, shorter belt?
  • s2driveruk
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12696
    • Country: England

    #2
    Are you not able to achieve the tension through the waterpump adjustment?
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    1992 3b S2 Coupe

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    • Palin
      S2Forum Buff
      • Aug 2021
      • 45
      • Country: Sweden

      #3
      Originally posted by s2driveruk
      Are you not able to achieve the tension through the waterpump adjustment?
      Unfortunetaly not, still a good amount of slack when maxed out.

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      • s2driveruk
        Super Moderator
        • Jul 2003
        • 12696
        • Country: England

        #4
        Any idea how much they took off? Sounds like you might need a bigger head gasket. Definitely sure you have the right belt too?
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        • AndyP
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Feb 2004
          • 6049
          • Country: England

          #5
          Buy a new tensioner roller and give it to a good machine shop, ask them to make a press on sleeve to increase the outer diameter. Done this before on a stroker engine using a 3B water pump.
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          1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
          1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
          1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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          • SteveH
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2003
            • 4460
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            I would use a thicker head gasket or you may be very close between the valves and piston valve pockets. Your CR will also be raised.
            91 Modded 3B
            14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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            • Palin
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              • Aug 2021
              • 45
              • Country: Sweden

              #7
              Originally posted by s2driveruk
              Any idea how much they took off? Sounds like you might need a bigger head gasket. Definitely sure you have the right belt too?
              Not sure how much exactly, but they said it wasn’t a lot. I’ve heard others had issues with the 3B belt being a little slack when OEM, makes sense it would slack more after a little machining.

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              • Palin
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                • Aug 2021
                • 45
                • Country: Sweden

                #8
                Originally posted by AndyP
                Buy a new tensioner roller and give it to a good machine shop, ask them to make a press on sleeve to increase the outer diameter. Done this before on a stroker engine using a 3B water pump.
                We found a belt pretty much identical to the 3B one, from an Opel. One tooth shorter and 1mm wider, we’ll try that one, should work. If it doesn’t, we’ll try the press on solution since i’ve got a spare roller laying around.

                Gates 5367xs for the record.
                Last edited by Palin; 18 February 2022, 08:24. Reason: Wrong belt nr

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                • Palin
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                  • Aug 2021
                  • 45
                  • Country: Sweden

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SteveH
                  I would use a thicker head gasket or you may be very close between the valves and piston valve pockets. Your CR will also be raised.
                  All the clearances was checked and OK, so that should be no issue. CR is less of an issue since i’ll be running a special E85 fuel!

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                  • AndyP
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6049
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Palin

                    We found a belt pretty much identical to the 3B one, from an Opel. One tooth shorter and 1mm wider, we’ll try that one, should work. If it doesn’t, we’ll try the press on solution since i’ve got a spare roller laying around.

                    Gates 5376xs for the record.
                    Are you sure on that number? According to this the 5376xs belt is 226 teeth by 30mm wide??

                    https://www.motor-doctor.co.uk/produ...48-timing-belt

                    Found it, it should be 5367xs

                    https://www.gatesautocat.com/p/power...es/5367xs.html
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                    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                    • Palin
                      S2Forum Buff
                      • Aug 2021
                      • 45
                      • Country: Sweden

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AndyP

                      Are you sure on that number? According to this the 5376xs belt is 226 teeth by 30mm wide??

                      https://www.motor-doctor.co.uk/produ...48-timing-belt
                      Oops, tossed the numbers around! 5367xs it is.

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                      • AndyP
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6049
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Some good information here on the various cambelts.

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                        1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                        1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                        1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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