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  • VladaS2
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Aug 2006
    • 185
    • Country: Yugoslavia

    #1

    RS2 tuning

    Hi, question for someone knowledgeable.

    When RS2 are tuned to 360+ hp, what boost are they upped to?

    For best performance is it better to unplug N75 and run on manual boost control (WG spring) or tune up the boost chip for that new pressure?

    Thanks
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  • sherv
    S2Forum Addict
    • Apr 2007
    • 315
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Hi there,

    Mine runs 360bhp with a custom remap. Boost is lifted from 20psi (1.4bar) to 25psi (1.7bar)

    That's the total of my knowledge hope it helps
    Sherv (Dan)

    S5 with all the goodies
    SOLDRS2 Volcano Black RHD 55k

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    • alg
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Apr 2004
      • 1160

      #3
      Originally posted by VladaS2
      Hi, question for someone knowledgeable.

      When RS2 are tuned to 360+ hp, what boost are they upped to?

      For best performance is it better to unplug N75 and run on manual boost control (WG spring) or tune up the boost chip for that new pressure?

      Thanks
      As Shev said but to add that you do not unplug the WGFV/N75 as you have no protection if something goes wrong down the line.
      The WG spring is usually changed to improve early boost onset and the rest is motronic reprogramming. Or at least it is if you use a tuner like MRC.
      Alastair
      RS2

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      • VladaS2
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Aug 2006
        • 185
        • Country: Yugoslavia

        #4
        I've heard that motronic will not allow more then 1.3 bar boost when programmed and that it is the reason why n75 has to be unplugged so that boost can be controlled manually.

        Sherv do you have a dyno plot of your car? When does the boost come and how it holds?

        I am pretty interested in any dyno's from tuned rs2's, and how the boost map is looks like.
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        • merlin's S4
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jan 2005
          • 1539
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by VladaS2
          I've heard that motronic will not allow more then 1.3 bar boost when programmed and that it is the reason why n75 has to be unplugged so that boost can be controlled manually.
          Not true!!! Even a remap on a standard S2 would see 1.4-1.5 bar with motronic! Take a look at any of the big power 20v turbos on here still running with motronic and the N75 Valve!
          '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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          • VladaS2
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Aug 2006
            • 185
            • Country: Yugoslavia

            #6
            Actually rs2 is factory 1.4 bar so it got to work Does anyone have a boost map of a chipped rs2??
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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Ask Sal, his RS2 did 354 bhp unchipped but with 3" exhaust and downpipe.

              RS2 ECU has 3 bar absolute MAP sensor in it I believe as standard so it can be tuned to 2 bar.

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              • sherv
                S2Forum Addict
                • Apr 2007
                • 315
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                354bhp with exhaust and downpipe......woah!

                I've requested the paperwork from Doug at MRC and will post if it arrives.....

                I wonder if any bhp will be freed with the Miltek catback??!! Perhaps next is to complete the system with downpipe then??
                Sherv (Dan)

                S5 with all the goodies
                SOLDRS2 Volcano Black RHD 55k

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                • Matt_D
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 515
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  It should do Dan mainly due to the larger bore so allowing the exhaust gasses to escape quicker, how much more i'm not sure 5-10bhp perhaps ?!?

                  Donwpipe would be an ideal combo for it, should release those extra horses!

                  Not long to wait now
                  '95 ABY Avant - Sold
                  '98 B5 S4 -MRC400+ = 464ps 741nm

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                  • alg
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1160

                    #10
                    Originally posted by VladaS2
                    I've heard that motronic will not allow more then 1.3 bar boost when programmed and that it is the reason why n75 has to be unplugged so that boost can be controlled manually.


                    Sherv do you have a dyno plot of your car? When does the boost come and how it holds?

                    I am pretty interested in any dyno's from tuned rs2's, and how the boost map is looks like.
                    Boost levels: stock is peak at 1.3 Bar (1.4 Bar when trying hard) dropping
                    to 0.8 at the redline. Remapped it is peak at 1.8 Bar, dropping to 1.1 at the
                    redline.
                    quote from Doug at MRC when I asked so the answer to your first question is no if the tuner knows motronic

                    Got maps but was asked not to distribute. Boost is flat from earlier peak around 2800 with gradual fall off at redline as stated above. Never dyno'd mine mapped.
                    Last edited by alg; 4 July 2007, 14:35.
                    Alastair
                    RS2

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Very few tuners know motronics there's a couple who claim they do but don't.

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                      • VladaS2
                        S2Forum Enthusiast
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 185
                        • Country: Yugoslavia

                        #12
                        alg: thanks for info. Can you tell me what rpm is max boost (1.8 bar) at?

                        jamo: I think only the wheel hp counts, as different machines will show different flywheel hp (it's only a guess of the machine after all). So interesting would be to hear from Sal what is the wheel hp that his rs2 showed and to compare it to stock.
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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VladaS2
                          alg: thanks for info. Can you tell me what rpm is max boost (1.8 bar) at?

                          jamo: I think only the wheel hp counts, as different machines will show different flywheel hp (it's only a guess of the machine after all). So interesting would be to hear from Sal what is the wheel hp that his rs2 showed and to compare it to stock.
                          Other way round as different machines will show different transmission loss for wheel power making it inaccurate.

                          wheel power is very american. I always think in terms of flywheel as when figures are released this is the figure they release.

                          Correct me if i'm wrong.

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                          • alg
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1160

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VladaS2
                            alg: thanks for info. Can you tell me what rpm is max boost (1.8 bar) at?




                            jamo: I think only the wheel hp counts, as different machines will show different flywheel hp (it's only a guess of the machine after all). So interesting would be to hear from Sal what is the wheel hp that his rs2 showed and to compare it to stock.
                            2000 flat curve to 5500 and then drops off
                            Alastair
                            RS2

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                            • robo
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Aug 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jamo
                              Ask Sal, his RS2 did 354 bhp unchipped but with 3" exhaust and downpipe.

                              RS2 ECU has 3 bar absolute MAP sensor in it I believe as standard so it can be tuned to 2 bar.
                              Which one??
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                              Rob

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