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  • Pirvu Eugen
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2007
    • 1978
    • Country: Romania

    #16
    Wrong mounted inner spring? I think!

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    • spink
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4382
      • Country: England

      #17
      Originally posted by Mark Halligan
      Was there anything 'different' about the head that may have caused that, cams etc?
      Not that im currently aware of,034 sell titanium versions of these so it must be known for these to fail.

      Mark have you always reused them in the past?

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      • spink
        S2Forum Freak
        • Jul 2003
        • 4382
        • Country: England

        #18
        Originally posted by Pirvu Eugen
        Wrong mounted inner spring? I think!
        Do you mean wrong type?as they are all the same.

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        • Mark Halligan
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2003
          • 2001
          • Country: England

          #19
          Originally posted by spink
          Mark have you always reused them in the past?
          Yes I have

          Good point made about the inner spring, is it the same length as all the others in the head?
          Mark - Modded

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          • Pirvu Eugen
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Apr 2007
            • 1978
            • Country: Romania

            #20
            yes! they are!

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            • Mark Halligan
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jul 2003
              • 2001
              • Country: England

              #21
              Originally posted by Pirvu Eugen
              yes! they are!
              LOL I meant was it an odd spring, different from all of the others which may have caused it to bind and put pressure on the disc.

              Probably didn't explain what I meant too well..
              Mark - Modded

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              • Pirvu Eugen
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Apr 2007
                • 1978
                • Country: Romania

                #22
                They remove the washer at 7a Exhaust probable because higher lift and more stress to the spring.

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                • Pirvu Eugen
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1978
                  • Country: Romania

                  #23
                  Sory! I didint understand!

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                  • Mark Halligan
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2001
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Good point!

                    I wondered why my 7A head had no washers on the exhaust side.
                    Mark - Modded

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                    • spink
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4382
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      ok so ive just checked them all and they are identical springs

                      By the way ive stripped down an obscene amount of I5 20v heads(7a+3b) recently and im still yet to find one that has missing discs under any springs.

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                      • Flat on my back
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2449
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Mine did First head i've ever stripped...do i win something?

                        Q. When turning a 7A head into a turbo fitment, would you fit the washers when using the 7A ex. cam?

                        I'm of the opinion 'yes' as it will only increase the spring preload a small fraction, in effect keeping the valve closed 'tighter'.

                        Could be due the the turbo and wastegate and DV all creating some strange pressure changes in the ex.

                        Only thoughts from a simpleton.
                        Carlos.

                        On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

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                        • Mark Halligan
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 2001
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Flat on my back
                          Q. When turning a 7A head into a turbo fitment, would you fit the washers when using the 7A ex. cam?
                          Good question

                          LOL @ the mystery washers, I remember an old conversation here
                          Mark - Modded

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                          • Pirvu Eugen
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1978
                            • Country: Romania

                            #28
                            One teacher off me told me once that "my entire life i have to be afraid off springs and whelds" they can brake at the most inoportune time. 1 mm plus tension could mean spring or cam damage!

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                            • s2_bo
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 6067
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

                              #29
                              Just starting to put the head back together.

                              Didn't get very far -

                              Look:
                              IMG_4092.jpg



                              It would appear that the new VG's have a lip, unlike the others. So now the spring disks dont fit!!

                              Any one got any ideas short of pulling all the VG's back out and getting different ones pressed in.

                              Or is there a different disk that has a larger center hole? Maybe Titanium ones?
                              Any help would as always be much appreciated.
                              91 S2 coupé - RIP
                              98 S8 - Luxury barge

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                              • s2_bo
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 6067
                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

                                #30
                                Another shot.

                                Edit: Word of warning Stu, we both bought the same VG's from GSF so dont have yours fitted in yet as they will just mess things up.

                                IMG_4093.jpg
                                91 S2 coupé - RIP
                                98 S8 - Luxury barge

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