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  • topsparky
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Oct 2005
    • 2014
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    bosch fuel pump

    can any of you guys in the know let me know
    if a fuel pump that can deliver 240litre/hour @13 bar is any good for going up to
    400 bhp ish
    as apposed to the bosch 044 which is 290 litres/hour @ 10 bar
    thanks in advance
    1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
    2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
    3. H & R SPRINGS
    4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
    5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
    6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
    7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
    8. fmic fitted
  • caterpillar
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2004
    • 2480

    #2
    13 bar??? dont think so.... bosch 044 for outside the tank, and 040 if you have it in the tank.its some upgrade pump for turbocars( maybe 2 pc pumps if its high hp)

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    • donce
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Aug 2005
      • 127
      • Country: Lithuania

      #3
      first of all i dont understand your question
      and second:you are joking right? normally fuel pump works at 3-4bar. if its high pressure,then its 6bar. any pump giving 250l/hour @ 6bar will give you atleast 500hp all day long

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      • topsparky
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Oct 2005
        • 2014
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Originally posted by donce
        first of all i dont understand your question
        and second:you are joking right? normally fuel pump works at 3-4bar. if its high pressure,then its 6bar. any pump giving 250l/hour @ 6bar will give you atleast 500hp all day long
        only repeating what was put on web site
        sorry but don't shoot the messenger
        i was only asking

        the website says it's a bosch motorsport fuel pump
        the 044 pump gives more litres/hour @ less pressure
        that is what confused me
        1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
        2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
        3. H & R SPRINGS
        4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
        5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
        6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
        7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
        8. fmic fitted

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Originally posted by donce
          first of all i dont understand your question
          and second:you are joking right? normally fuel pump works at 3-4bar. if its high pressure,then its 6bar. any pump giving 250l/hour @ 6bar will give you atleast 500hp all day long
          Have you done the math on the pressure thing lately? A 4 bar FPR means there is 4 bar across the fuel rail. When you are boosting 28 psi (about 1.9 bar), the fuel pump has to put out over 5.9 Bar just to pressurize the fuel rail. Add in line pressure losses between the tank and the fuel rail, you need well over 6 bar at the pump.
          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by caterpillar
            ... bosch 044 for outside the tank, and 040 if you have it in the tank.its some upgrade pump for turbocars( maybe 2 pc pumps if its high hp)
            You can install a 044 in the fuel tank. Needs a V8 two piece 60 mm fuel pump basket and a couple of fittings but it can and has been done. Doug (now of MRC) did this years ago in his coupe and many people have done this in their C4 UrS4/S6s.

            Fuel pumps (all pumps for that matter) can supply high pressure at lower flows or lower pressures at higher flows. The fuel delivery curve is just that a curve (with flow as the y-axis and pressure as the x-axis) that starts high and then drops off as the pressure increases. The Bosch 044 is one of the pumps that has a fairly flat curve and does not drop dramatically until pressures well above what our 3B, ABY and AAN engines can handle. Remember the FPR is a differential pressure between the fuel rail and the intake manifold pressure, in psi 28 psi boost requires at least 86 psi at the rail (4 bar = 58 psi).

            HTH
            Last edited by UrS4boy; 22 December 2007, 16:38.
            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • Bram
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Aug 2006
              • 2582
              • Country: Netherlands

              #7
              I got a 044 Bosch in-tank pump from PK motorsport in Germany. It is a complete set incl. the plastic and rubber parts of the basket. For a good price and plug&play!

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              • terrybullwon
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2006
                • 8782
                • Country: England

                #8
                You should be fine with it

                heres dougs thread when people first started fitting them
                Chef

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