Converting CQ10v to S2 ABY using Avant

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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Car looks good, I've seen it parked outside work a few times at lunch. Al's car was a beaut, I was jealous of how original it all was, shame it met a bitter end at the hand of an out-of-control woman...

    There are many changes that were made to the S2 over the CQ, most are detailed on here but I suppose it's down to how much work you want to take on Azman has done this conversion with a 3B so would be a good man to speak to, as would Alex at All Audi as he knows an awful lot about these cars, has concerted a B3 90q and is local too (Bristol).

    I would suggest that you go for a 3B flywheel as the ABY item is a bit heavy (!) and defo go down the 996 monoblock route for brakes as the G60s really aren't up to stopping in a hurry! 6 speed box, 5 stud hubs and larger S2 front struts are a good plan too IMHO.

    If you need some spannering help then give me a shout, always happy to have a play

    Oh, and get that ECU off to Paul for some home fried action ASAP.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • re2500
      S2Forum Fiend
      • May 2007
      • 2185
      • Country: Wales

      #32
      Yeah i know Aaron (azman) from a while back, he told me i can give him a ring if i get stuck.

      I have everything from both cars so will just do the best i can, i have a fairly methodical approach (im labelling lots) so i should get there eventually.

      The 6 speed box and engine will be going in, the 4 stud hubs and g60s are staying for the time being (until i can afford better).

      I will give you a shout when your around mate, cos it always alot quicker with an extra pair of hands.

      You will be especially useful when trying to get it all running, having an aby yourself

      Unfortunatly found today that a small chunk of a fitting flange has chipped off the cold side of the turbo in the accident so thats abit of a ******
      Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
      03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
      01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

      "Difficult is worth doing"

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      • BRY
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        • Nov 2004
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        #33
        Depending on your wheel choice there is a cost effective solution for the four stud brakes.
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        England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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        • MGaz
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          • Feb 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by re2500
          Just thought i'd add a couple of pictures of the CQ that will be converted to ABY.


          wow, that look nice!.
          C4 A6 AEL avant quattro: daily

          TYPE-85 Coupe Quattro: clicky
          2.5L GTi engineering RE2500 190hp.180lb
          Schrick 272 cam
          C A C 2.5" T304 Exhaust
          ITG filter

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          • Error404
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            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            That sure is a beauty, wish my CQ looked that nice
            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #36
              How is your projects going mate?
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • re2500
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                • May 2007
                • 2185
                • Country: Wales

                #37
                Its going really well mate, thanks for asking.
                Ive had to buy a new subframe cos the donor cars one was bent, so that haltered progress a bit.
                Engine bay and dash is sorted with wiring fuel lines etc. Just need to fit the turbo housing i am awaiting, then drop the engine and box in.
                Then its just a case of connecting up driveshafts fitting 20v hubs and getting the downpipe and exhaust mated.
                Job done.

                Will try and get some pictures up soon.
                Seeing the ABy intercooler behind the modified b3 coupe bumper is quite entertaining.
                Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                "Difficult is worth doing"

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                • re2500
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • May 2007
                  • 2185
                  • Country: Wales

                  #38
                  Well i made a fair bit of progress on the car over the bank holiday.

                  Engine, Box and New Subframe were wrestled in as one lump. All fits really nice.
                  Although i had to use my existing CQ engine mounts as the S2 ones are offset and its the chassis mounting points that are different not the engines.

                  Thanks to a few people for parts recently:
                  K7 ERG for the turbo housing, just the job.
                  Quattronics for the alloy front subframe mounts with 10mm CQ through holes.
                  Pro-Speed for doing a sterling job at converting my ABY 1->2 Downpipe into a single. (beautiful welding!)
                  AlS2avant for the Mikalor Hose Clamps.

                  Engine is all wired up. Im just waiting on a box of bits from VAGparts and i should have her fired up this weekend!

                  Ill take some pictures this weekend, i keep meaning to take some all the way through. but i get into it and forget!
                  Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                  03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                  01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                  "Difficult is worth doing"

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    great news! Sounds like you're almost there.
                    I'll be following this route with my CQ next year once the chassis, suspension and brakes are up to scratch, interested to hear about any problems you've had with teh fitting

                    What was the issue with the engine mounts? I thought all the IL5s shared the same mounts?
                    Have you used a custom downpipe to join up to your CQ exhaust, i assume you removed the y-section and have no cats?
                    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                    • anton
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 802
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #40
                      i forget how good my old beast looks great job mate!
                      Lets hope this engine last a little longer than the previous....whats it been...5 engines lol

                      Ant
                      91' Coupe quattro 20v - project
                      KW V2s and other goodies
                      now gone
                      03' BMW 330CI - Sold
                      08' A5 Coupe 3.0l tdi quattro - Sold
                      57' BMW 525d M Sport Touring

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        Nice work, hope to see this soon.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • re2500
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • May 2007
                          • 2185
                          • Country: Wales

                          #42
                          Error 404:
                          Use the 20v CQ mounts they will work fine. The chassis mounts on an S2 are slightly different meaning they need an offset mount (the centre pin is not in line with the two mounting holes) All I5's have the same mounting points on the engine itself.
                          Exactly right on the exhaust, i have removed the Y and have no cats. 1989 so no need!

                          Ant:
                          This should be engine number 5 yeah! (NG -> 2.5KV -> 2.2KV -> GTi 2.5KV and now ABY) We'll if you'd done it properly in the first place..... Nah only joking the 2.2KV was never going to stay in there long!
                          But you gotta admit it looks a lot better now from when you had it!!

                          Cant wait to hear it fire this weekend 'fingers crossed'
                          Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                          03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                          01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                          "Difficult is worth doing"

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                          • Acidburn
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 13459
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            Look forward to seeing pictures from this, glad the avants donar parts are getting used together, made a good result on the RR at coombe.

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                            • re2500
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • May 2007
                              • 2185
                              • Country: Wales

                              #44
                              ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!

                              after numerous electrical problems the car now runs!!! sweet at that!!

                              I had a problem due to the 1995 avant being fitted with a factory immobilizer/alarm. which after religiously studying Paul N's electrics schematics for the RS2. transpired that i had to transfere the Central locking unit and loom from the avant. (thank god ive not scrapped the avant yet)

                              It still wouldnt turn over or give fuel after that but it just needed the +ive to the starter cleaning, it coughed ant spluttered to life. (with no exhaust.....hehe)

                              Im soooo happy, i was getting so very frustrated with it.

                              should be all together in a couple of weeks
                              Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                              03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                              01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                              "Difficult is worth doing"

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                              • anton
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 802
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #45
                                nice work mate!!! glad its all working.....so when you coming to lboro?? although i'm heading back down south tomo so maybe go there instead lol

                                Ant
                                91' Coupe quattro 20v - project
                                KW V2s and other goodies
                                now gone
                                03' BMW 330CI - Sold
                                08' A5 Coupe 3.0l tdi quattro - Sold
                                57' BMW 525d M Sport Touring

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