SPM Rods Not usable - anybody had any issues?

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  • volcano rs
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2005
    • 2265
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    i've said it before and i'll say it again this is one part of your engine you can't take chances on spend a little extra to be on the safe side

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    • 4WheelDrifter
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2004
      • 5773
      • Country: Devon

      #17
      Originally posted by repo
      In my point of view these cheapos are an upgrade when replacing original ones, yet not being that much better, only a little less bad.

      Maybe good for some RS2 upgrade or so, but for more demanding applications, especially when longevity is a concern, I definately recommend paying a couple hundreds more, and using some known brand rods.
      I'm not planning on going too power mad, although on the limit of stock rods. So I thought a set of Chinese rods would be ok for what I want, something slightly better than stock.
      SS

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      • denniselbows
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Mar 2007
        • 740
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        at the end of the day how many reports have there been for smp/scat rods failling there is quite a few using them now so i would of thought any problems would of made there way onto the forum by now.
        never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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        • 4WheelDrifter
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Oct 2004
          • 5773
          • Country: Devon

          #19
          Originally posted by denniselbows
          at the end of the day how many reports have there been for smp/scat rods failling there is quite a few using them now so i would of thought any problems would of made there way onto the forum by now.
          Unless they're still crying over their engine that has several holes in the block.
          SS

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          • repo
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Dec 2004
            • 893
            • Country: Finland

            #20
            Quoting myself

            Issues are not that huge, so motor may startup and run "good", but still internal friction may multiply, causing lots of issues when parts start to age. Also small difference in compression ratio between cylinders cause vibration, which ever more cause excessive wear to the internals, like pistons and bearings.
            Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

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            • 4WheelDrifter
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Oct 2004
              • 5773
              • Country: Devon

              #21
              I was joking, I hope.
              SS

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              • Acidburn
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Jun 2007
                • 13459
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THS-H-Beam-Con...QQcmdZViewItem

                These have just popped up on the bay with the specs etc, whats the views on these?

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                • Flat on my back
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2449
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  .

                  The picture of the 5 rods together is different, look at the small ends...

                  Look like Scats to me.
                  Carlos.

                  On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

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                  • denniselbows
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 740
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Pictures shown may be generic is what it says at the bottom so don't exspect to get anything that they look like.
                    never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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                    • BRY
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3755
                      • Home: United Nations Current: Vietnam

                      #25
                      I asked them where these were made last year and he didn't give an answer, they are not vacuum forged in the UK for that money. The grinder sounds Chinese aswell.
                      Kingdoms are run by Kings, Dictatorships are run by Dictators.
                      England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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                      • mcandmar
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5118
                        • Country: Ireland

                        #26
                        Philip did say they looked like cheap Chinese rods

                        I'll get in contact with SPM and see if they are willing to do anything. It was two years ago that group buy so i don't expect much.

                        If i'm forced to buy another set what are recommended? Any indication of costs and suppliers would be great.

                        Thanks,

                        Mark.
                        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                        • Flat on my back
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2449
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
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                          Cosworth and lots...
                          Carlos.

                          On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

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                          • aelred
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 761
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            I have always used Pauter rods unless supplied by customers, they will make them to your spec. I never had any failures or problems with them. With discount to me and the exchange rate and custom duties and shipping they are approx. £550 to £600 They can be rifled drilled for a very reasonable cost. Their design is not the "H" pattern but the "I" pattern. I have also used Carillos but the price is a lot higher.
                            Aelred

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                            • k.alle
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 801
                              • Country: Sweden

                              #29
                              Well, all I can say about the SPM rods is that they are infamous here in Sweden, mostly about what you just found out very different weight in a kit.

                              Sorry mate, but you are _not_ alone.
                              Audi S2 -1994 | 480 Hp 650 Nm | FlexFuel | MaxxECU | 3" Stainless | Porsche GT3 Front Brakes
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                              • AllarN
                                S2Forum Enthusiast
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 151
                                • Country: Sweden

                                #30
                                Mine was also a bit different.
                                515g 511g 512g 512g 512g
                                But they are working anyway

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