MAF'Less Motronics

[Jamo]

I've been reading on Audiworld and Motorgeek about a company called EPL ( European Performance Lab ) perfecting a maf less motronic install on I5 cars

Can however find no details, does anyone know anything about them and the installs?

http://www.motorgeek.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12538

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/231964.phtml

[max_s2]

VEMS/MS aftermarket ECU can be run without MAF

[GazzaG60]

are they using something like perfect power sm6 to emulate maf signals using map.

[Jamo]

VEMS/MS aftermarket ECU can be run without MAF

Thanks but the title clear says motronics

[Jamo]

are they using something like perfect power sm6 to emulate maf signals using map.

could well be, I'm doing a google hunt as I am very curious, it's software based according to that cars owner and car is then speed density based.

[GazzaG60]

looked at using one of these on a subaru once upon a time as non maf solutions for them are hard to find. in the end i used 2 versions of LINKECU the Link plus and the G3 as they were tried and tested jap ecu's

[Tommen]

This is what I found...

http://www.eplabs.net/index.html

[A80Avant]

that is very interesting...keep us posted!

[UrS4boy]

I've been reading on Audiworld and Motorgeek about a company called EPL ( European Performance Lab ) perfecting a maf less motronic install on I5 cars. Can however find no details, does anyone know anything about them and the installs?

As the two threads point out, the tuner is Tony Chick at EPL. It also points out that the tuning is done real time on a dyno (rolling road) and that it isn't cheap. Other than "germantoy" (Nick), I haven't heard of too many people in North America going down that (rolling) road.

In the NAmerican UrS world, it is becoming more common to go with VEMS, using Marc Swanson's (a4kquattro's) talents and conversion harness that allows at least AAN's to be made plug and play for VEMS tuning. Lots of flexibility. Here is a link to Marc's info and his website:

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/222662.phtml

[a4kquattro]

FWIW, Nick, the guy that had the mafless motronic tune sold the car and has since purchased another S6 and opted for a VEMS system......

[Jamo]

FWIW, Nick, the guy that had the mafless motronic tune sold the car and has since purchased another S6 and opted for a VEMS system......

He sold it? shame would have loved to find out the details, i'm a information hoarder

[4WheelDrifter]

I have heard that Mihnea has been able to do MAF-less Motronic for years. But as you know, whether he would want to do it is another story.

[Jamo]

I have heard that Mihnea has been able to do MAF-less Motronic for years. But as you know, whether he would want to do it is another story.

He can on the S4 / RS4 cars not the S2 apparently

[4WheelDrifter]

He can on the S4 / RS4 cars not the S2 apparently

That's what he tells you.

[Jamo]

That's what he tells you.

Well what mini audi ninja told me