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  • EspenW
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2007
    • 1534
    • Country: Norway

    #31
    Sweeper: what kind of dyno was used and what was power and torque at the wheels?
    1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
    1994 80E Avant
    1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      Originally posted by driftin jo
      GT3082R ?? I cant find that on the garrett website .


      http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ochargers.html
      Because it's a hybrid turbo not officially produced by Garrett GT35r hotside wheel and housing GT30r compressor and cold wheel.

      I do laugh at peoples astonishments, The bhp limits are a guide and good cams with mechanical lifters and a high rev limit will push the BHP

      Look at MRC600 putting out 650 with a GT35r where on stock lifters you'll see around 600

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #33
        yes but 650 from 600 is not as big of a difference than 525 to 600++ (since the car was only pushed to 1.7bar and can be pushed further!!!)

        it is engines like these though that make us think that,oh ok ill get it in my car and i can make that bhp and when you realise that you are making 100 to 150less,then you realise that cams,lifters,proper IC, etc can make more bhp

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          As I said you guys only think in terms of the Garrett figures and not real world results

          The 3076r has made 560 bhp on a 1.8t engine at 1.8 bar for goodness sake so it making 600 on a 2.2 with 8500 rev limit isn't a stretch by any means

          BTW that car was tuned by Repo, the person who's advice you seem to ignore.

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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #35
            (Jamo, if you are not aware of circomstances you shouldnt say openly things that may find you regret in the future. Whatever i have talked with repo is my business and just because im polite enough not to openly say my side of the story doesnt mean that you should blindly follow what it is being said by him in this forum. )

            Sorry Vadim

            On the other hand, as far as the 3076R is concerned,Vadim stated earlier that the boost used was 1.7, not 2.2

            and on the other side of the note. a GT30R used by Aron (ok 0.63AR though) only made 470hp crank at 2.1bar

            so there are many sides to tuning obvisouly,engine parameters,as well as dyno results etc etc etc

            All im suggesting is not to follow blindly dyno results.

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            • driftin jo
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Sep 2007
              • 2222
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #36
              Originally posted by Jamo
              As I said you guys only think in terms of the Garrett figures and not real world results

              The 3076r has made 560 bhp on a 1.8t engine at 1.8 bar for goodness sake so it making 600 on a 2.2 with 8500 rev limit isn't a stretch by any means

              BTW that car was tuned by Repo, the person who's advice you seem to ignore.
              trot, sorry but the bhp quoted by garrett is based on flow so it will make no differance , eg , it could make 550hp on a 1L engine with 55 psi boost or 550hp on a 4 L engine with 10 psi of boost, either way air flow is the same.

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                Originally posted by driftin jo
                trot, sorry but the bhp quoted by garrett is based on flow so it will make no differance , eg , it could make 550hp on a 1L engine with 55 psi boost or 550hp on a 4 L engine with 10 psi of boost, either way air flow is the same.
                either way the figure is a "quote" not a limit

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                • Sweeper
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1317
                  • Country: Latvia

                  #38
                  Camone , don't be rude , just wait for a week , I will upload the dyno sheet once I will be able to scan it home.

                  The thread was originally a question about clutch
                  Vadim.

                  New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Clutch won't hold get a Sachs Sinter, Carbon one from clutchnet or a double one from Repo depends on how much you want to pay, I'd go with the Sachs myself not a fan of specs clutches

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                    • Sweeper
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1317
                      • Country: Latvia

                      #40
                      Jamo: Aha got it. I guess I need the one that is most user friendly , couse the car is most for city driving ..... with fun ....
                      Vadim.

                      New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        See here http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showpos...7&postcount=17

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                        • Sweeper
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1317
                          • Country: Latvia

                          #42
                          You are a saver =] .Kiss.

                          Do I need only a plate from Sasch , or anything else ?

                          Originally posted by Jamo
                          Vadim.

                          New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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                          • Audi_CQ
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 940
                            • Country: Norway

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Sweeper
                            The tuner is saying the car would be able to put around 760Nm but the clutch doesn't cope with it.

                            The clutch is Spec clutch 3+.
                            Use a 5+ pressure plate with the 3+ disc. 034 said it should hold 150nm extra.

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                            • AUDIS2avant
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 670
                              • Country: Denmark

                              #44
                              CHRIST you start to sound like passionford :/

                              The stated figures on garret homepage is just as stated a guideline.
                              There are more then enough cars now that make more then garret state, a gt35 ar 0.86 have made 706bhp on a cossie, my gt35 1,06 made 651bhp @ 2bar on my cossie and a m8 gt30 ar 0.82 makes 562bhp @ 2,1bar.
                              It´s how effective the engine is to use the air, not the pressure the turbo makes that makes the power
                              Last edited by AUDIS2avant; 5 April 2009, 15:24.

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                              • A80Avant
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 10873
                                • Country: Greece

                                #45
                                and again i just add what espenw says. Numbers are also determined by dyno factors.

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