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  • Albert
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2003
    • 1500
    • Country: Poland

    #16
    Originally posted by Martynf

    I'll ask him about the rods, if he uses TDi ones, or whether he used other ones. He's coming round to play at my house tomorrow night so I'll pick his brains whilst he's fitting the TDi block to my Avant. ;-)

    Martyn
    And ? any info ? what about crankshaft ? how much the one he uses will hold ?

    I have heard that the one form 2.2T will do around 600Nm.
    AKmotorsport.net - Manufacturing Motorsport parts that do the job. | Audi S2 on Facebook | Best way of reaching me is sending email to albert@akmotorsport.net

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    • Martynf
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1885
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      I had a chat with Siena about this, and then thought, why not ask Siena to post the info right here from the 'horses mouth' :-)

      So ... the next post in a few minutes will be from him with the details :-))

      Watch this space...
      Martyn
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      • Vagsport
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Aug 2003
        • 533
        • Country: United States

        #18
        2.6 combined with a 20V turbo head + absolute boost pressure over 1.2 bar + heavy right foot = BANG. The bore required to stretch the 5 cylinder block to 2.6l will not tolerate high boost, whe head gasket will literally be sitting on a knife edge, and will fail. We always use 2.5 as a maximum. We Carrilo rods, though my Orange Coupe q had standard rods that handled 413 lbs / ft without any drama. Don't recommend it though.

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        • Albert
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Aug 2003
          • 1500
          • Country: Poland

          #19
          Originally posted by Vagsport
          We always use 2.5 as a maximum. We Carrilo rods, though my Orange Coupe q had standard rods that handled 413 lbs / ft without any drama.
          Are You using for 2.5 AEL block and crankshaft ? Or just boring ABY 2.2 to 2.5 liters (increasing cilinder size).

          What is the limit for AEL cranksharf in Nm ?

          What about 2.2T ABY crankshaft ... whice using light pistons and roods ... what is the brake Nm point ? i have heard that litle over 650Nm ... true or not ?
          Last edited by Albert; 22 August 2003, 20:21.
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          • Pisobiker
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2003
            • 1175
            • Country: Finland

            #20
            I don't think S2 block has much metal left for overboring. The 2.5 are just obtained using the 96.5 mm stroke TDi crankshaft on the standard 81 mm bore.

            Marco

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            • Vagsport
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Aug 2003
              • 533
              • Country: United States

              #21
              Not sure how far you can go on standard or Carrilo rods, but I had mine on standard rods for 4 years, with no problems. We don't recommend boring out 2.2L blocks, as it compromises the integrity of the seal of the head gasket between the cylinders, which has too small a lip. We use AEL 2.5L TDi blocks, which have a longer stroke, (95.5mm). The hardest part was finding a way to drop the compression ratio sufficiently to run a turbo of any sort. Pistons also had to be modified as the skirts fouled the crank when at the bottom of it's stroke.
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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by Mark Halligan
                Dialynx did do a stroker conversion, here:


                This was however to 2.5 litres for reliability.

                Mark.
                Never seen this post before ( Sorry Mark was going through all your posts on the forum )

                What is interesting there is they are taking the stroker engine to 7500 plus rpm???

                Surely thats not right?

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                • NoNonsense
                  Forum Sponsor
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 673
                  • Home: Italy Current: United States

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  Never seen this post before ( Sorry Mark was going through all your posts on the forum )

                  What is interesting there is they are taking the stroker engine to 7500 plus rpm???

                  Surely thats not right?

                  I don't see why not, Jamo. It does "seem" incorrect, but I've turned out 8K on a 4-cylinder VAG engine with the same stroker rod:stroke ratio (1.8T with a stroker crank = 2.0T). Furthermore, 034Motorsport has the CQ with a 2.5L stroker and they turn over 7500 rpm all the time. Very reliable.
                  Joe "NoNonsense"
                  axis motorsport
                  joe@axismotorsport.com

                  "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    True, true looking at the hp and torque profile there's no point going about 7k rpm anyhow.

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                    • NoNonsense
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 673
                      • Home: Italy Current: United States

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      True, true looking at the hp and torque profile there's no point going about 7k rpm anyhow.

                      On a stock cylinder head, you are correct. On a properly massaged cylinder head with cams you can still get power above 7K rpm...and it's magnificent!
                      Joe "NoNonsense"
                      axis motorsport
                      joe@axismotorsport.com

                      "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

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                      • caterpillar
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2480

                        #26
                        "the" Stroker Project


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