UrS6 with GT2871R not pull enough!!??

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  • popdemonic
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Dec 2007
    • 1304
    • Country: Thailand

    #1

    UrS6 with GT2871R not pull enough!!??

    Hi Mates,Let me formally introduce myself first.I'm here for a big while.
    I'm living in Thailand.the S-car is rare here.And i'm supposed to be the only one
    guys here who mods the S-car upto the this step.recently,I got the GT2871R
    Kits from 034's.Here's the part installed on my car.
    GT2871R turbo.
    1.9Bar WG Spring.
    034's 2871R S/W.
    3.0Bar Vmap.
    5.0Bar FPR.
    044 Bosch FP.
    440cc Big Green Injectors.
    D585 Coils.

    Wagner RS2 'EM is on the way.

    Currently,I'm running with the stock AAN Exhaust system with Catless.

    The car is Automatic tranny.I feel like the car doesn't pull enough and the boost
    comes late compared to the MRC Chipped car.The car will pull stronger somewhere
    over 4KRPM.I feel it won't go faster compared to the chipped car.That's a bit disappointed.Sometimes when I tried WOT for many times at the same RPM level.
    it feels like the car doesn't pull constantly everytimes.

    The 0-60MPH ~7.95Secs with 19"RS6 Rims
    the Chipped car 0-60MPH ~7.7Secs with pre-Revving from Stanstill (stock 16"AVUS Rims)

    here's the G Tech Graph on my car.




    I feel like the boost comes a bit late than i'd imagine so firstly,I'm thinking it's caused
    from the bad N75 Valve.As when i WOT I saw the boost needle swing up and down when it peaked(~0.25-0.5Bar).
    sometimes the boost acheive 1.8Bar sometimes 1.5 bar,the worst 1.3-1.4 Bar at the same RPM level.So i tried to disconnect the vacuum /boost that running from N75 to WG .The boost needle is better. it 's constantly.but it seemed the boost is still a bit late.No matter how hard i try,the boost will acheive 1.0 bar after 3KRPM.

    I don't know if it's caused from the stock DP,Exhaust system and stock 'EM.
    what's the additional gains or feeling of the car pulled after I replaced the left items?
    i'm waiting for RS2 'EM to be arrived.My custom 3" on Downpipe and 3" exhaust pipe will be done at the same times as the RS2 'EM have arrived.please enlighten me if something could possibly wrong on the setup.I'd appreciate on that.

    Regards,
    POP
    one of a few I5 from Asia.
  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    034 chipset?, ditch it and get the homefry from S2central.net

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    • Bram
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Aug 2006
      • 2582
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      The problem is your stock AAN EM that you are forcing to glow red hot!
      Wait for the RS2 EVo EM to be mounted in order to get much better results.
      The stock AAN EM is suitable up to say 300 HP. Your kit can produce more then 400 HP

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      • gnutz2
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Aug 2006
        • 928
        • Country: England

        #4
        Maybe you have other problems with your car, 7.7 sec 0-60 is very poor for a standard car S2.

        Never mind a chipped one.
        The ONLY S2 Golf!
        http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
        10.42@138mph
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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        • gnutz2
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Aug 2006
          • 928
          • Country: England

          #5
          Never mind it's an S6
          The ONLY S2 Golf!
          http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
          10.42@138mph
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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          • chipsenter
            S2Forum Addict
            • Jun 2009
            • 246
            • Country: Norway

            #6
            i wouldnt boost that engine over 1.6 with stock internals, have u changed Rods ? i suggest H-Beam .
            try to skip the N75 and go on boost manually with for example turboXs perfomance valve. works good.
            u should also check your hoses if there is a leak in the system somewere ?

            this is a potensial 400 hp kit, but not more . This turbo is pretty empty at the high boost ! It might hold for a short moment though.

            I prefer my self a Turbonetics E50 for fast spoolups and it perfect to 400+ kits.

            keep it up.
            FEEL THE DIFFERENCE

            -Audi S2 " The Sleeper" 704hp 880nm
            -Audi S2 ""Audi S2 Racetrack

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            • spink
              S2Forum Freak
              • Jul 2003
              • 4382
              • Country: England

              #7
              I am surprised the autobox is coping with that punishment.

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              • popdemonic
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Dec 2007
                • 1304
                • Country: Thailand

                #8
                Originally posted by Bram
                The problem is your stock AAN EM that you are forcing to glow red hot!
                Wait for the RS2 EVo EM to be mounted in order to get much better results.
                The stock AAN EM is suitable up to say 300 HP. Your kit can produce more then 400 HP
                Do you think the result will be backhand & forehand?the car is running like the stock K24 turbo not like on 2871 Turbo.As you'll see on the G Tech graph.
                one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                • popdemonic
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1304
                  • Country: Thailand

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gnutz2
                  Maybe you have other problems with your car, 7.7 sec 0-60 is very poor for a standard car S2.

                  Never mind a chipped one.
                  7.7Secs is for the MRC Chipped car.
                  Mine Got 7.95Secs on 2871R turbo very poor.
                  one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                  • popdemonic
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1304
                    • Country: Thailand

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chipsenter
                    i wouldnt boost that engine over 1.6 with stock internals, have u changed Rods ? i suggest H-Beam .
                    try to skip the N75 and go on boost manually with for example turboXs perfomance valve. works good.
                    u should also check your hoses if there is a leak in the system somewere ?

                    this is a potensial 400 hp kit, but not more . This turbo is pretty empty at the high boost ! It might hold for a short moment though.

                    I prefer my self a Turbonetics E50 for fast spoolups and it perfect to 400+ kits.

                    keep it up.
                    What's the use of MBC instead of N75 ?well,one of my friend also gave me kinda idea to me as well.He has MBC laying around and never use of it.Anyway,I have done the experiment on disconnected the vacuum/boost line that running from N75 to WG chamber. the boost still come late though, That's why I'd skip MBC on my car first.

                    I have done on the boost leak test.But not sure if there's some leak on the system.
                    I'd rather check on them again.

                    Currently,I'm running ewith stock rods.034's has clamied that the 2871R setup is not required any internal upgraded.the overoost is around ~1.8-1.9Bar,linear 1.5-1.6Bar.
                    one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                    • popdemonic
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 1304
                      • Country: Thailand

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spink
                      I am surprised the autobox is coping with that punishment.
                      Spink,the real punishment will begin on the tranny,when it comes with another
                      100HP on the wheels.right now I don't feel this power level on my car will kill the tranny.It runs like a crab now.
                      one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                      • popdemonic
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1304
                        • Country: Thailand

                        #12
                        here's another G Tech graph
                        the main run is 2871R Setup.(Launched by w/o Pre revving)
                        the Comp 1 is MRC Chipped Car.(launched by Pre revving @ 2KRPM)



                        one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                        • popdemonic
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1304
                          • Country: Thailand

                          #13
                          Well,please do ignored the HP level,the G Tech wasn't corrected Calibration on the day of testing.
                          one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                          • spink
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 4382
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by popdemonic
                            Spink,the real punishment will begin on the tranny,when it comes with another
                            100HP on the wheels.right now I don't feel this power level on my car will kill the tranny.It runs like a crab now.
                            yeah sorry I meant when it will be running well.Out of interest has it had the gearbox ecu map file changed aswell?I have heard of this happening on some german cars when they have been remapped

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                            • popdemonic
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1304
                              • Country: Thailand

                              #15
                              Originally posted by spink
                              yeah sorry I meant when it will be running well.Out of interest has it had the gearbox ecu map file changed aswell?I have heard of this happening on some german cars when they have been remapped
                              Spink,Never done on it yet.I couldn't find anyone who will be able to do it.Paul told me once that "GIAC" has the Mods S/W for TCU.Right now I'm finding the way to import the Manual Tranny from USA or UK.
                              Regards,
                              POP
                              one of a few I5 from Asia.

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