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  • montez
    S2Forum Addict
    • May 2010
    • 396
    • Country: England

    #1

    Engine Running Rough During Warmup

    Got a new problem with the car, whenever I start it from cold the engine runs fine for about 1 minute (as if it is on choke) then as the revs drop the engine starts to stall by dropping about 500rpm then picking itself back up again just before it cuts out. As the engine gets warmer and near to operating temperature it stops and the engine runs prefectly. It was run on vagcom the only thing that showed up was the IAT valve which has since been replaced.

    Any ideas anyone?
    1991 Audi S2 Coupe
  • mcandmar
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Apr 2004
    • 5118
    • Country: Ireland

    #2
    Could be a dirty/sticky idle valve. What do you mean by the IAT sensor showed up, was it dead or reading incorrectly?
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    • montez
      S2Forum Addict
      • May 2010
      • 396
      • Country: England

      #3
      The person who tested it for me said it was throwing up dodgy readings, I checked what ohms it was kicking out when cool and hot etc and it was way out so I replaced it.
      1991 Audi S2 Coupe

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      • Sleeper_Avant
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Mar 2009
        • 2372
        • Country: England

        #4
        take off the idle valve and clean it out
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        • montez
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          • May 2010
          • 396
          • Country: England

          #5
          I blasted the ISV out with loads of carb cleaner until it was running clear then let it dry over night. All parts seem to be moving OK inside it. If I disconnect the ISV whilst the car is warming up it just starts to drop revs and eventually conks out. If I leave it connected it drops revs then picks back up again.

          If it is the ISV valve surely it would not only happen when the car is cold?
          1991 Audi S2 Coupe

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          • Flat on my back
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jan 2007
            • 2449
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
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            Slow lambda?
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            • Smiley
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              • Jun 2005
              • 329
              • Country: Germany

              #7
              Thats a good point, if the lambda is bad and the heating doesn't work properly the bad readings could cause this.. is it running fat?
              What does the ecu do when disconnecting lambda? Or will this kill the lambda at once?
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              • UrS4boy
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                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #8
                Just to eliminate the possibility of a problem, you might want to check the resistance of the G62 coolant temp sensor on the back of the head, as per this post:

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                • 20Vcqdriver
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 829
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  My 3B does exactly the same thing so let me know when you find the cause
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                  • prj
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                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6308
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #10
                    The lambda is not used with a cold engine IIRC...
                    When I had something similar it was my MAF... but I also got a low signal from MAF code...
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                    • montez
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                      • May 2010
                      • 396
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Looks like it was the Lambda sensor, replaced this as well as the WGFV as this was way out of its range. Car is starting fine with a little bit of wobble on idle but it is that small you cant see it on the rev counter. I should imagine the plugs may be fouled due to the under/over fueling so I will fit a new set.

                      After fitting the new uprated N75 I have overcome a problem the car boosts up but when it gets to 4000rpm it as if the turbo stalls and all boost is lost. I should imagine that I have got a pipe loose or something.
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