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  • Greenm3
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2004
    • 512
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    MTM tuning

    My car has MTM stage 1 tuning, what are peoples views on this setup? Is a homefry better?
    I know it's only a short question but everyone here has homefrys and just wondering if that would be better for me?
    Cheers
    Mike

    See next post for boost leak.....
    Last edited by Greenm3; 29 July 2004, 13:41. Reason: Suspected boost leak just occured
  • porkkis
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2003
    • 1994
    • Country: Finland

    #2
    Depends a lot if you have 3B or not. MTM stg1 for 3B uses the original 200kpa MAP and that's the limiting factor. If you have ABY then there is probably no significant difference. Perhaps Paul has made the homefry a bit leaner than MTM. MTM seems to use a bit rich mixture at the mid range and low boost.
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    • Greenm3
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Jul 2004
      • 512
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      It doesnt matter now just dropping my little bro into town.....heard what seemed to be something poping or passing underneath the car.....now big boost leak heard what seemed to be a boiling type noise from somewhere around the inlet manifold.....major whooshing on acceleration. AHHHHHH!

      I have no idea what to do know......got undertray off as i though a fluid might be dripping maybe there was but can only see slight deposits of grease etc as usual but there is a whity almost sort of corrosion deposit on one hose which looks like its dripped down.

      Need some help here.....looks like it's going to be off the road for a while!

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      • porkkis
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Aug 2003
        • 1994
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        Coolant boiling in the engine after a drive is totally normal.
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        • Greenm3
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Jul 2004
          • 512
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          ok so not to worry about the coolant.....good news i fixed the boost leak just pure luck i saw the jubilee clip had jumped off and crimped the hose.!

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          • dan_b
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Sep 2003
            • 3670
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

            #6
            I have a 3B with stage 1MTM chip, and it's a very good piece of kit. By all accounts it runs rich - the cars who followed me at the track day at Bedford recently all testified to that! It means you get some fun pops and flames every now and then: on Tuesday night I must have got at least 6 pops on the overrun coming home round the South Circular, which is always nice to hear! I think it runs rich to control exhaust manifold temperatures, is that right?

            What I don't know is whether the current homefrys for a 3B are any better - MTM are well respected for Audi tuning certainly. Would a 3k MAP make much difference with the stock turbo?

            @Greenm3, do you have a 3B or an ABY? Glad you found your boost leak!
            Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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            • Greenm3
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jul 2004
              • 512
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              I have a 3b with the MTM same as yours.....was just wondering if homefry would be better......i know what you mean about the flames!

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              • dan_b
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Sep 2003
                • 3670
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #8
                I'm guessing, but I think with the stock turbo, there's not much more to be done with just a re-chip, even if you put in a 3kpa map? Mihnea could probably shed more light on it?
                Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                • audiman
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4827
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Nah, Mihnea's std remap chip takes the 3B to 275bhp. Not sure what MTM claim?
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                  Audi UR Quattro
                  Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                  Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Running rich is as bad as running to lean, most chip companies do it as the use the extra fuel as coolant! expensive coolant!
                    I'll fly the ABY homefry flag, as for the 3B i'd ask someone like Beetie who's running it.

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                    • s2driveruk
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 12696
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      i'm running a 3b chip...not had an mtm one but its excellent and now i replaced my lamda shes flying......

                      on the rolling road a year ago it was pulling 303lb/ft torque but didnt get a fix on bhp due to heatsoak, should be around 280ish

                      David
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                      1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                      • newsh
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I've seen an MTM ecu from a 3B RR quattro and that had the map sensor changed.

                        S2 Coupe 3B Project


                        Ur quattro restoration

                        S2 Avant

                        Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                        • audiman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4827
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Its a fine line between rnning rich and lean. Most ppl go for rich as it keeps the EGT's lower prolonging turbo life. But if you want good power/torque then there is no point messing about. Run it a bit lean
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                          Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                          Audi UR Quattro
                          Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                          Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                          Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by audiman
                            Its a fine line between rnning rich and lean. Most ppl go for rich as it keeps the EGT's lower prolonging turbo life. But if you want good power/torque then there is no point messing about. Run it a bit lean
                            Very true, but it's an all too common practice, if i had my way i'd ban things like FSE valves. Think of all the oil washed off by the extra fuel.......

                            I can't remember maybe Paul can confirm but i'm sure the optimum fuel mixture is 12:1 and not 14.7:1 (going off memory!! if i'm wrong apologies)

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                            • dan_b
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3670
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #15
                              I think the MTM standard rechip in the 3B is rated as 275BHP? I don't know what the torque values are though...
                              Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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