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  • Sleeper_Avant
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2009
    • 2372
    • Country: England

    #1

    no spark or injector pulse! Any ideas please throw them in.

    as topic really lads,

    after putting my head back together AGAIN it wouldnt start, weird....

    checked all the earths etc and still no good, ripped all the wiring out to check inline fuses and all is good.

    my Hall Sensor bracket has always been broken and im hpoing thos this is all it is, new one ordered from TPS (£135+ the raggy!!!!!)

    anyone throw any other ideas into it??

    injectors are live at boths terminals, getting 4.99volts at the plug and resistance is 6.10 at the sensor wth plug disconected.

    if it aint the hall sensor im breaking it! sick to death of stupid things costinmg me a fortune.

    HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
    1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
    BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP
  • Sleeper_Avant
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2009
    • 2372
    • Country: England

    #2
    at the hall sensor plug*
    1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
    1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
    BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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    • Billman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2004
      • 4129

      #3
      hall sensor
      Go Holset or Go RS4

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      • Gazjen
        S2Forum Addict
        • Oct 2008
        • 223
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Timing Pin on the back of the flywheel or sensor not seeing/US
        URQ 20vt converted
        80 quattro saloon with on going a V8 transplant

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        • pixsaudisex2
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Sep 2004
          • 3110

          #5
          Definatly got all the coil wires connected correctly.and the pos. an your earths.

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          • GazzaG60
            S2Forum Freak
            • Mar 2007
            • 4133
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            mine failed when i did the cam swap. the slightest knock.

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            • Sleeper_Avant
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Mar 2009
              • 2372
              • Country: England

              #7
              brand new hall sensor, ftted it and no problems there but still no running,

              both crank sensors at bellhousing have no live feed, i think the ECU has given up to be honest.

              any other guesses?!

              anyone after an AAN motor complete?
              1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
              1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
              BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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              • kirvis
                S2Forum Addict
                • Feb 2010
                • 262
                • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

                #8
                how much for the motor?

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                • Sleeper_Avant
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2372
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Everything for "conversion" is £1500

                  loads of new engine bits within 2 months, head rebuild etc etc etc

                  please dont turn this into a for sale thread lol
                  Last edited by Sleeper_Avant; 27 July 2010, 19:10.
                  1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
                  1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
                  BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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                  • kirvis
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 262
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                    #10
                    hmmm... i can get my engine rebuilt for £1500

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                    • Sleeper_Avant
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 2372
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      try to buy an engine on its own then, there normally £1000-£1200 depending on spec
                      1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
                      1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
                      BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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                      • gnutz2
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 928
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sleeper_Avant
                        as topic really lads,

                        after putting my head back together AGAIN it wouldnt start, weird....

                        checked all the earths etc and still no good, ripped all the wiring out to check inline fuses and all is good.

                        my Hall Sensor bracket has always been broken and im hpoing thos this is all it is, new one ordered from TPS (£135+ the raggy!!!!!)

                        anyone throw any other ideas into it??

                        injectors are live at boths terminals, getting 4.99volts at the plug and resistance is 6.10 at the sensor wth plug disconected.

                        if it aint the hall sensor im breaking it! sick to death of stupid things costinmg me a fortune.

                        HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Strange, injectors should see 12 volts not 5 and resistance sould be more like 12 ohms.

                        The two crank sensors do not have any voltage to them they are variable reluctance sensors and generate their own voltage when running on a tooth wheel.

                        HTH
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                        • kirvis
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 262
                          • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sleeper_Avant
                          try to buy an engine on its own then, there normally £1000-£1200 depending on spec
                          someone tried to sell one for "£700.. unlucky

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Remove the starter motor and check the pin is still in the flywheel

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                            • Sleeper_Avant
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 2372
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gnutz2
                              Strange, injectors should see 12 volts not 5 and resistance sould be more like 12 ohms.

                              The two crank sensors do not have any voltage to them they are variable reluctance sensors and generate their own voltage when running on a tooth wheel.

                              HTH

                              yeh injectors are seeing the 12v supply ( typing non too accurate lol)

                              even when cranking theres no pulse.

                              very interesting about the non live feed at crank sensors cheers for that!


                              Jamo, will check first thing tomorow

                              I still think its a huge co-incidence its only happened since ive had the head off, will do a continuity test on the wiring from the ECU tomorow.

                              got my head pickled this one
                              1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
                              1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
                              BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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