Oil Around Plugs

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • steverrquattro
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Oct 2006
    • 787
    • Country: England

    #1

    Oil Around Plugs

    Hi,

    Just bought an S2 and trying to get to grips wiyth it today while the Mrs is out.

    Bsically there is an oil leak around the back of the engine and from what I can see someone has been using a gasket sealent which may mean the rocker gasket is U/S.

    So whilst starting to remove various components I noticed that there is oil in the bores where the pulgs are. Will this also be leaking through from the rocker cover gasket?
    Steve

    1990 RR 20V
    1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #2
    Yes, there is an internal gasket to seal the 5 spark plugs.
    sigpic
    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

    Comment

    • steverrquattro
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Oct 2006
      • 787
      • Country: England

      #3
      Originally posted by AndyP
      Yes, there is an internal gasket to seal the 5 spark plugs.
      Thanks again Andy. I was beginning to panick a bit for a moment as originally I bought the car for the engine to put in my SWB car................but now I'm sort of thinking of putting it back on the road as it's too good to scrap.
      Steve

      1990 RR 20V
      1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

      Comment

      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        Originally posted by steverrquattro
        So whilst starting to remove various components I noticed that there is oil in the bores where the pulgs are. Will this also be leaking through from the rocker cover gasket?
        You need item 17 in the diagram below. This includes the cam cover edge gasket, two half moons for the firewall end of the cam cover and the integral 5 spark plug well sealing gasket. Incidentally, last week I saw a running UrS4 that had so much oil in the spark plug wells (all 5) that the coil to plug boots were totally saturated. Car still ran (go figure). Nevertheless, you should buy and install the gasket set (pretty easy, 30 min job, watch out for the No. 19 (10 mm) bolts that also hold the cover down to the head. 15 Nm torque on everything (IIRC))


        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

        Comment

        • mcandmar
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Apr 2004
          • 5118
          • Country: Ireland

          #5
          FYI http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...highlight=audi
          91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
          93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
          94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

          Comment

          • steverrquattro
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Oct 2006
            • 787
            • Country: England

            #6
            Cheers guys, much appreciated.

            I've removed the rocker cover today and there was gasket sealant everywhere. The main gasket was in several pieces as was the one around the spark plugs.

            At least I know that's what the problem is and it's a simple fix.
            Steve

            1990 RR 20V
            1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

            Comment

            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by steverrquattro
              I've removed the rocker cover today and there was gasket sealant everywhere. The main gasket was in several pieces as was the one around the spark plugs. At least I know that's what the problem is and it's a simple fix.
              First thing is to buy the new cam cover gasket kit. When you remove the old one, you will naturally have to remove not only traces of the old gasket but also the bodged gasket sealant traces. Given that a previous owner didn't do it up properly , you *might* find some other surprizes as you dig into the car. Just be prepared.
              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

              Comment

              • steverrquattro
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Oct 2006
                • 787
                • Country: England

                #8
                Originally posted by UrS4boy
                First thing is to buy the new cam cover gasket kit. When you remove the old one, you will naturally have to remove not only traces of the old gasket but also the bodged gasket sealant traces. Given that a previous owner didn't do it up properly , you *might* find some other surprizes as you dig into the car. Just be prepared.
                Exactly what I thought. I've been here before with UR Quattro ownership. That's why I always say with an old car it's more about the most recent service history and current condition rather than for example the £10K it had spent on it all those years ago.



                Steve

                1990 RR 20V
                1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

                Comment

                • mcandmar
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #9
                  Does that cam cover have metal tubes sticking out of each plug hole?

                  Ignoring the gasket that cylinder head looks nice and sludge free to me, somebodys looked after it and done regular oil changes
                  91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                  93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                  94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

                  Comment

                  • steverrquattro
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 787
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mcandmar
                    Does that cam cover have metal tubes sticking out of each plug hole?

                    Ignoring the gasket that cylinder head looks nice and sludge free to me, somebodys looked after it and done regular oil changes
                    It's some kind of silver paper. To be fair to the previous owner he did tell me he'd done this but at the time I didn't quite understand what he meant.

                    The car has a full Audi service history so at least it's had regular oil changes which is the main reason why I bought it.

                    Looking forward to fitting new gaskets this week and getting it running again.
                    Steve

                    1990 RR 20V
                    1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

                    Comment

                    • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1041
                      • Country: Italy

                      #11
                      Hello, with a new cam cover gasket kit is a good idea put also a bit of sealant or not?
                      Thanks!
                      Bye
                      Alessio
                      My life and my loves

                      Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                      Audi S6 C4 ABT Avant
                      Audi S2 Coupe ABY
                      Audi S2 Avant
                      Audi Cabriolet 2.0E

                      Comment

                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                        Hello, with a new cam cover gasket kit is a good idea put also a bit of sealant or not? Thanks! Bye Alessio
                        The only place a bit of sealant should/could help is at the back, at the half moon(s) where the rifle drilling of the cam caps pierced the head. High Temp RTV is what some people use to make sure the half moon(s) stay in place.
                        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

                        Comment

                        • Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1041
                          • Country: Italy

                          #13
                          Thanks Dave!
                          Alessio
                          My life and my loves

                          Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
                          Audi S6 C4 ABT Avant
                          Audi S2 Coupe ABY
                          Audi S2 Avant
                          Audi Cabriolet 2.0E

                          Comment

                          Working...