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  • Rocco
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #1

    S2 Avant boost problems

    hello partners, i have a spanish friend who has a S2 Avant ABY with RS2 IC,RS2 turbo,034 MS replica RS2 injectors, cheap replica RS2 Exhaust manifold,Super sprint 70mm dwonpipe....and a tuned ECU by Paul nugent (S2Central.net here)

    two years ago he was using the car and the boost were 1.7 or 1.8bar,and now after changed the 90% of the engine sensors he has only 1.6bar (sometimes)others only 1.5bar and some others 1.3bar¡¡

    he says that the engine is runing better than ever...but cant charge the older boost levels.

    any suggestions for him?? i said him that it could be a wastegate failure.... or some small boost leak...
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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    rather than going crazy changing sensors everywhere...

    Any fault codes ?

    Is cylinder compression OK ?

    What about mechanical timing ?

    What about air leaks ?

    Any strange noises from turbo ?

    Any restrictions in the airbox ?

    Don't forget to reset the ECU (pulling motor fuses) for a few seconds if you are unable to clear fault codes with VAGCOM...
    Paul Nugent
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    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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    • Rocco
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Aug 2007
      • 6393
      • Country: Spain

      #3
      Originally posted by S2central.net
      rather than going crazy changing sensors everywhere...

      Any fault codes ?

      Is cylinder compression OK ?

      What about mechanical timing ?

      What about air leaks ?

      Any strange noises from turbo ?

      Any restrictions in the airbox ?

      Don't forget to reset the ECU (pulling motor fuses) for a few seconds if you are unable to clear fault codes with VAGCOM...
      i will advise him to visit the forum

      he will can tell us better about that many questions

      thanks for answer Paul¡ surelly with everything good he should boost up to 1.7bar with your ECU setup for RS2 turbo true??
      RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
      BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
      LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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      • newsh
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Aug 2003
        • 16226
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Rocco. Ask him how much oil he's burning.

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          muchos scorchio lubricanto ?????

          sorry - i will get my coat
          Paul Nugent
          Webmaster http://S2central.net
          Administrator http://S2forum.com

          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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          • Rocco
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Aug 2007
            • 6393
            • Country: Spain

            #6
            Originally posted by S2central.net
            muchos scorchio lubricanto ?????

            sorry - i will get my coat
            ??????????? what do you want to mean???

            google translator it is a shi_t
            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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            • Rocco
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Aug 2007
              • 6393
              • Country: Spain

              #7
              Originally posted by newsh
              Rocco. Ask him how much oil he's burning.
              i will do it , he is "M Gordon" on our forum with S2 Avant and S8 mk1 wheels and a pair of awesome Recaro seats
              RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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              • turbo20v
                S2Forum Addict
                • Dec 2005
                • 226
                • Country: Germany

                #8
                he could also check intake air temperature sensor, wather sensor (on engine head) and knock sensors. If they are bad they could give wrong informations to ECU and it will reduce boost level ......

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                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #9
                  Those things should be checked with VAG-COM.
                  Because if the readings are correct in VAG-COM and there are no codes, then ECU won't be reducing boost.

                  If the car was running fine before, I doubt the knock sensors are overtorqued as well.
                  But it's possible something is loose in the engine bay and banging against the block for example, causing the knock sensors to register phantom knock.
                  Had that happen to a car once...
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                  • DS2
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 80
                    • Home: Jordan Current: Finland

                    #10
                    i had similiar symptoms. first it was boosting 1.5 then 1.3... 1.1 ...0.9 ...0.7 so i took a look in the turbo... and found this sight
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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      Yeah... mechanical failure is always a possibility as well.
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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by S2central.net
                        muchos scorchio lubricanto ?????

                        sorry - i will get my coat


                        Scortchio! Chris Waddle. Sminky pinky...

                        Which was nice

                        I'll get me coat...

                        (Rocco, look up 'the fast show')
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • M_GORDON
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1295
                          • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

                          #13
                          Hello guys. My english is very bad; excuse me.

                          At first the Vagcom sais some things: hall, lambda, máximun engine speed (in the past I asked you about that) ...
                          Because that I change the Knock sensors (one was broken), lambda sonde and the 2 down sensors (rpm and possition sensors).

                          The car was better but only better. And some months later I changed 4 pins watter sensor (it's was broken too, the "clock" was always down and up), oil temp and press sensor (the same, temp sensor always was low) and the IM air temp sensor (because...)

                          The car pull ok but the bost...
                          Just, at the moment I remember when this past summer I go to Valencia with 45ºC on the street and the car's watter around 95ºC AND THIS WEEKEND THE TURBO PULLS AROUND 1,8BAR!!!!!
                          And I change the last sensor, the water sensor who is on the rear part of the engine, around all conectors. One white with two pins.


                          PS: 4 years ago I changed the throttle body sensor, N75, WG diaphram, Hall ...

                          2PS: one year ago or less I bought one used Altitude sensor from one S2Forum member (my sensor indicate always too low ambient pressure)



                          Thank U very much at all
                          Last edited by M_GORDON; 2 March 2011, 20:02.
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                          • M_GORDON
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Oct 2008
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                            • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

                            #14
                            Some one can help me with the new info?

                            THX
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                            • newsh
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 16226
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              How much oil are you burning ( I asked this before ^^)

                              Have you done a boost leak test?

                              What does Vagcom say now?

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