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  • Billman
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    • Nov 2004
    • 4129

    #16
    I have done it today and it drops :-)
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    • A80Avant
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      • Sep 2005
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      • Country: Greece

      #17
      If it always drops, then how detrimental is it for the engine? As all 5cyl engines would have this issue

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      • Billman
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        • Nov 2004
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        #18
        Maybe just an extra safety
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        • Thuppu
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          • Sep 2010
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          #19
          If you use full boost and max rpm's on a 400-600hp engine and your oilpressure drops to zero for a second it's propably "bye bye then".

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          • A80Avant
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            • Sep 2005
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            #20
            Never seen that happen, and if that was the case it doesn't have to be an 400hp engine. It can happen in any engine

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            • Thuppu
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              • Sep 2010
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              #21
              Yes, of course. Oil pressure drop is not good at any time. But on a high power engine at full load the bearing are gone stright away. Havn't experienced it my self but it's what I have heard.

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              • Thuppu
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                • Sep 2010
                • 4115
                • Country: Finland

                #22
                Here is RWD19T's sump mod:



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                • Billman
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                  • Nov 2004
                  • 4129

                  #23
                  I have searched a bit about those buffle and also found these designs:

                  with hinges from

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                  I maybe fabricate a buffle system on my spare pan for the next time the pan is out.
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                  Last edited by Billman; 5 September 2011, 06:57.
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                  • A80Avant
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
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                    #24
                    pictures cannot be seen Bill

                    you need to download them and save them in the forum, not as links

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                    • Billman
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                      • Nov 2004
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by A80Avant
                      pictures cannot be seen Bill

                      you need to download them and save them in the forum, not as links
                      done
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                      • A80Avant
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                        • Sep 2005
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                        #26
                        nice work there.

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                        • Thuppu
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 4115
                          • Country: Finland

                          #27
                          Those rubber flaps are hard to find. I'll tried to find some... Cosworth made them, but seems they don't sell them separate. BMW M3(e30) has them as stock in the oil pan, part number 11131309428 item 8 in the pic http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...72&hg=11&fg=10 but they are quite expensive, 14 euro each and you need maybe 6-8 of them. Thats why I did steelflaps at 0 costs.

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                          • quattro84
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 947
                            • Country: Netherlands

                            #28
                            I've seen those flaps in a ~5 year old WRC car and they don't seal that well. Because of the temperature of the oil it doesn't stay completely flat over time.

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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #29
                              then i am going for the metal ones. I think the mos important position is in the oil pan extension as this provides a bigger space.
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                              • JariP
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 192
                                • Country: Finland

                                #30
                                If you have an oil pan in your hands, put couple litres of water in it and tilt it side to side and front to back, it gives you some ideas what's happening in there while driving. 45° tilting equals to 1G acceleration, I think. Stock I5 oil pans are not so bad, running out of oil in general from the pan could be bigger problem than controlling the oils movement in there.

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