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  • 20Vcqdriver
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2007
    • 829
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Originally posted by prj
    If you lose G4 or G28 during operation your car will instantly die.
    Are you sure about G4. Knocked the flywheel pin off when I had the 7A whilst it was running when I dropped a bolt and it fell through the timing aperture. Engine kept running and bolt fell out through the bottom and thought nothing of it until I switched off the engine and went to restart it and it wouldn't....
    1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
    2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
    2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #32
      Keep pulling codes.
      Your car will feel like **** until you get rid of all the trigger errors.
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      • 20Vcqdriver
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jun 2007
        • 829
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        Originally posted by prj
        Keep pulling codes.
        Your car will feel like **** until you get rid of all the trigger errors.
        Can I do this be disconnecting ECU for a while. Being loaned a distributor as I type so one less item to consider. Will get codes read again at end of week prior to driving down to ADI.
        Just wondering, would a dodgy Lambda cause the engine to stall at tickover??
        1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
        2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
        2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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        • prj
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #34
          Look, you have trigger errors. Until you get rid of them, and I don't mean erasing codes, I mean fixing the problem, your car is not going to run properly.

          If you don't know how to fix it, then pay someone who does...
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          • 20Vcqdriver
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jun 2007
            • 829
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            Originally posted by prj
            Look, you have trigger errors. Until you get rid of them, and I don't mean erasing codes, I mean fixing the problem, your car is not going to run properly.

            If you don't know how to fix it, then pay someone who does...
            Have replaced G28 and it still comes up with a fault when it cuts out hence why I am thinking its something else that's causing a red herring and bringing up this code and G4 at the same time every time....
            If I had any money worth noting I wouldn't have had to completely build this car from the ground up myself and it wouldn't have taken 15 years
            1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
            2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
            2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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            • prj
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2010
              • 6308
              • Country: Estonia

              #36
              If it is coming up with those faults and you have replaced the sensors, it is a wiring problem, plain and simple.
              Or the ECU is shot, but that is unlikely.

              No matter how much you write about it, they are not going to go away by themselves.
              And no, lambda can not cause this, your maf can not cause this, and your dog can not cause this either
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              • jogi730
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2004
                • 2335
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                Originally posted by prj
                If it is coming up with those faults and you have replaced the sensors, it is a wiring problem, plain and simple.
                Or the ECU is shot, but that is unlikely.

                No matter how much you write about it, they are not going to go away by themselves.
                And no, lambda can not cause this, your maf can not cause this, and your dog can not cause this either
                Hey, steady on.
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                20v turbo conversion

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                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #38
                  Btw, G28 will always come up with the engine not running.
                  If you are getting G4 error and you have not tried swapping it out, do so.

                  Also, exact copy/paste of codes would be better, if you are using VAG-COM.
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                  • 20Vcqdriver
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 829
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Is it possible using VAGcom to log values for the various sensors. I use this type of thing at work and provides a graph to indicate and detect missing pulses on Stepper motors, prox switches etc etc. Be good if I could monitor G4, G28, Throttle pot, G40 and MAF outputs for a minute at a time until error occurred and go back and look to see what is happening....
                    Will put G4 on my swap list too. Thanks
                    1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                    2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                    2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #40
                      No, you can't, you need a multichannel scope.
                      The triggers provide interrupt requests in the SAB80C535 MCU's of the ECU. If that tells you anything.
                      No interrupt request = no ignition, no injection, no nothing.
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                      • 20Vcqdriver
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 829
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        Originally posted by prj
                        If it is coming up with those faults and you have replaced the sensors, it is a wiring problem, plain and simple.
                        Or the ECU is shot, but that is unlikely.

                        No matter how much you write about it, they are not going to go away by themselves.
                        And no, lambda can not cause this, your maf can not cause this, and your dog can not cause this either
                        PS how'd you know I had a dog

                        Are the replacement flywheel pick-ups available from GSF any good as they are half the price of the ones on 'back order' from Audi...
                        Last edited by 20Vcqdriver; 3 October 2011, 19:13.
                        1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                        2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                        2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                        • 20Vcqdriver
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 829
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #42
                          Issues sorted, just in time for ADI.
                          Swapped G4 for one from GSF and car wouldn't start at all. Assumed the new pickup was ok so took off the rubber boot from the loom plug to find the inside section of the plug that holds the crimped pins had become detached and the wires were not therefore fully home against the sensor plug pins, must have been like this a while and only just touching with occasional not touching at all causing the cutting out and rough running. Now superglued the pink section to the housing and car started instantly. Quick drive round the block and all seems as it should be. Full test will be drive to ADI on Saturday.
                          Thanks for all help and advice
                          1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                          2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                          2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                          • jogi730
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2335
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            How annoying, but well done for finding it
                            Now go and enjoy
                            Audi 90 quattro (Typ 85)
                            20v turbo conversion

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #44
                              Good to know it was the wiring.

                              The G28 and G4 sensors go very, very rarely. The one that usually goes is G40, and even then, most of the time it is just wiring to one of them.

                              The fact that all the plugs are crimped without solder at the factory does not help.
                              I have had issues with my MAF connector, my TPS connector, Coolant sensor connector. After soldering everything, the problems disappeared...

                              Seems to be the same for you.
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