CT housing debate - as per Smiler's thread

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  • Thuppu
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    • Sep 2010
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    #16
    I don't know Mike's exact setup, but if he's gona use ported head and some sort of custom cam setup, the benefit of a bigger hot side comes on higher rpm's, of course with some cost of spool. All is what you wan't. If you wan't the powerband to rise all up to the redline or wan't a descending powerband. RWD19T's dyno plot shows nicely two different kind of power bands:



    With the .84 housing you propably get something like 900 degrees EGT wich is ok for all day track use, if you have need for that.

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    • Jamo
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      • Mar 2004
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      #17
      Not the best screenshot as the dyno plot is comparing a 2.2 setup to a 2.5 stroker set

      This is a better example http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showpos...9&postcount=71

      Also note the amount of 3076r users on 2.2 dropping down in hotside size

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      • Thuppu
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        • Sep 2010
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        #18
        Oh, I thought the turbo was the only different on that one, didn't check it properly, sorry. Bigger hot side should rise the powerband upwards some bit. Also the spool rises to higher rpm's of course as mentioned before.

        Ok, it seems that RWD19T didn't get so much out of the bigger hot side after all, if I read the plot right... Of course there is ported head vs stock.
        Last edited by Thuppu; 20 December 2011, 09:20.

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        • A80Avant
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          • Sep 2005
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          #19
          Originally posted by Jamo
          Not the best screenshot as the dyno plot is comparing a 2.2 setup to a 2.5 stroker set

          This is a better example http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showpos...9&postcount=71

          Also note the amount of 3076r users on 2.2 dropping down in hotside size
          That's me! But it goes with what the user wants as well..

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          • Thuppu
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            • Sep 2010
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            #20
            For some reason RWD19T uses .82 hot side on the latest setup after all. But, I doupt Mike gona build a customized setup like as JP's, so maybe the .63 housing would be better for him.

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            • Jamo
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              #21
              He uses .82 because of the stroker application

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              • Jamo
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                #22
                Originally posted by A80Avant
                That's me! But it goes with what the user wants as well..

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                Yes also Aronmatic2 went the same way so did RWD19T and 4wheeldrifter all dropping to the .63 hotside on the 2.2

                I'm always a start small then go bigger

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                • Billman
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  #23
                  maybe the turbine impeller it too small on the GT3076 to give a major advantage with 0.82 AR so people prefer the 0.63 for the better spool.
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                  • A80Avant
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                    • Sep 2005
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    Yes also Aronmatic2 went the same way so did RWD19T and 4wheeldrifter all dropping to the .63 hotside on the 2.2

                    I'm always a start small then go bigger
                    You will get there, you just don't know it yet

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                    • Jamo
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                      • Mar 2004
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Billman
                      maybe the turbine impeller it too small on the GT3076 to give a major advantage with 0.82 AR so people prefer the 0.63 for the better spool.
                      This is my point exactly Europeanme turbo has a smaller turbine than that of a 3076r

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                      • europeanme
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                        • Oct 2005
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                        #26
                        0.63 it is then....

                        I must start a project thread or at least update my old one.....

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                        • Bram
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                          • Aug 2006
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by A80Avant
                          If I remember correctly and Bram can verify, he was seeing up to 1100C at 2.1bar at the redline on the CT355.

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                          This was due to my crappy exhaust system at that time. Normally 0.63 AR CT hotside will stay in safe temp margins so you can safely run a 0.63 AR hotside on track days. Jyrki Repo can back this up by log data on the many 0.63 CT turbo tunes he did

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                          • A80Avant
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                            • Sep 2005
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                            #28
                            what exhaust were you running? i thought it was a 3inch without any catalysts

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                            • Rocco
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                              • Aug 2007
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by A80Avant
                              what exhaust were you running? i thought it was a 3inch without any catalysts
                              and a full 3" is crappy?
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                              • Jamo
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #30
                                3" is only the pipe size, the difference in exhausts are the boxes, some boxes like the borla generate little back pressure some are quite restrictive adding a lot of back pressure.

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