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  • audinut
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2009
    • 2195
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    STR manifold ABY

    Have been offered a STR manifold through the forum , just like the one that sold today in the for sale section , but I cant find out any information on them .... can anyone shed any light?
    NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Originally posted by audinut
    Have been offered a STR manifold through the forum , just like the one that sold today in the for sale section , but I cant find out any information on them .... can anyone shed any light?
    The STR cast manifold is basically a two branch pipe with five 90 deg inlets. It will not flow as well as an RS2 EM. And RS2 EM does not flow as well as a Wagner RS2 EVO EM.

    Previously Posted Theoretical (relative) flow numbers:
    The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


    STR log:


    RS2 EM - at least there is some attention to flow and longer radius bends.

    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • audinut
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2009
      • 2195
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Originally posted by UrS4boy
      The STR cast manifold is basically a two branch pipe with five 90 deg inlets. It will not flow as well as an RS2 EM. And RS2 EM does not flow as well as a Wagner RS2 EVO EM.

      Previously Posted Theoretical (relative) flow numbers:
      The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


      STR log:


      RS2 EM - at least there is some attention to flow and longer radius bends.

      thanks il leave that one then and wait for an rs2/ wagner
      NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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      • prj
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #4
        Here is some more in-depth information, comparing log style vs collector style manifolds on the 2.7T.
        All of this info is still applicable to 2.2T though.

        http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Originally posted by prj
          Here is some more in-depth information, comparing log style vs collector style manifolds on the 2.7T. All of this info is still applicable to 2.2T though.
          All??? Disagree on "all". . The 2.7tt manifolds are nothing like the 2.2t manifolds. The 2.7tt manifolds have the flow from the 3 cylinders all flowing in the same direction to the turbo at the end of the manifold. With the 2.2t manifold, you have the flow from 2 or 3 cylinders flowing to the middle(ish) of the manifold where the flow from the remaining cylinders meets (collides with) the other flow before the exhaust flow enters the turbo. Much more difficult to create a good scavenging flow than with the 2.7tt manifolds.
          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #6
            Originally posted by UrS4boy
            All??? Disagree on "all". . The 2.7tt manifolds are nothing like the 2.2t manifolds. The 2.7tt manifolds have the flow from the 3 cylinders all flowing in the same direction to the turbo at the end of the manifold. With the 2.2t manifold, you have the flow from 2 or 3 cylinders flowing to the middle(ish) of the manifold where the flow from the remaining cylinders meets (collides with) the other flow before the exhaust flow enters the turbo. Much more difficult to create a good scavenging flow than with the 2.7tt manifolds.
            I think you read too much into it. The entire analysis about log vs collector is perfectly applicable to 2.2T. That's what I meant by "all".

            In a 2.2T log manifold the hole is just in the middle, so imagine the 2.7T mani as a 2.2T with two runners cut off if you will and view it as half... I know this is pretty rough, but you are nitpicking

            Point is that article provides a pretty good explanation about log vs collector, even if flow paths on 2.7 will be obviously different.
            http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by prj
              In a 2.2T log manifold the hole is just in the middle, so imagine the 2.7T mani as a 2.2T with two runners cut off if you will and view it as half... I know this is pretty rough, but you are nitpicking
              Not "nitpicking". Pointing out that the 2.2t is two manifolds aimed at each other, meeting in the middle and therefore more care has to be taken to make sure that the flow out of the middle isn't restricted by the conflicting flows. This is not a problem on the 2.7tt manifold.
              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Another thread heads south...

                In short, STR manifold is better than a OE S2 or knackered leaky RS2 and is a cheap solution
                but better manifolds are available for bigger budgets.
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  another thread goes "east" more like

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                  • Rusty
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18953
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Thread cleaned up. Play nice chaps
                    Cheers'en, AndyC
                    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                    • Bram
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2582
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      If you run a stock K24 turbo and the S2 EM broke down I would replace it with a STR EM. I had one on the RS2 turbo and that was even not a problem when stock mapped.

                      It's a good alternative for the stock S2 EM

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                      • s2driveruk
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 12696
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        at what HP does the STR become less useful than a stock RS2 Manifold?
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                        • Henkjan
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1705
                          • Country: Netherlands

                          #13
                          what's a normal price for an STR? and where do they sell them?

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                          • Bart76
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 117
                            • Country: Netherlands

                            #14
                            I have one for sale Henkjan..

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                            • Henkjan
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1705
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #15
                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              The STR cast manifold is basically a two branch pipe with five 90 deg inlets. It will not flow as well as an RS2 EM. And RS2 EM does not flow as well as a Wagner RS2 EVO EM.
                              and how does it compare to a std ABY?

                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              Previously Posted Theoretical (relative) flow numbers:
                              The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums
                              don't see the STR there?

                              Originally posted by Bart76
                              I have one for sale Henkjan..
                              voor hoe weinig?

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