Advice on injector size and brand from experience?

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  • Pat D
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Dec 2011
    • 748
    • Country: Australia

    #1

    Advice on injector size and brand from experience?

    As per title, is there a prefered choice in injector brand and rating for 600-700HP from experience?

    I will be using an Autronic SM4 ecu.
    ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

    B5 1.8T quattro

    B4 2.3 (decommissioned)
  • prj
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2010
    • 6308
    • Country: Estonia

    #2
    Ev14..
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    • Pat D
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Dec 2011
      • 748
      • Country: Australia

      #3
      Originally posted by prj
      Ev14..
      cc rating?
      ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

      B5 1.8T quattro

      B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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      • prj
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #4
        750cc or bigger, assuming 4 bar fuel pressure.
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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          I agree then I would as I have this setup

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          • europeanme
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Oct 2005
            • 3817
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-EV14-Vol...item5643cf7991

            my set up.....

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #7
              A good fuel system will also be required!
              Chef

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              • Pat D
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Dec 2011
                • 748
                • Country: Australia

                #8
                Originally posted by terrybullwon
                A good fuel system will also be required!
                I plan on using the standard pump feeding into the 034 1 litre surge tank in the engine bay, which has a 044 inside of that.

                Five o have 1000cc EV14's. Are there any issues with going too big with injectors?
                ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                B5 1.8T quattro

                B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #9
                  1000cc EV14's will be fine.
                  2000cc's will be a bit worse than 1000 on low pulsewidths, but still manageable.

                  Bigger than that I would not recommend.
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                  • JP
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1858
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Had a look at that one litre surge tank. Good idea but saying it will handle 700 at 6.2bar means I can't see it as a viable option for my turbo upgrade. Think I'll stick with a hefty intank one instead.

                    Other options on injectors are the ASNU ones custom made to spec using bosch plug bodies and ev14 internals to any desired cc.
                    UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                    • Pat D
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 748
                      • Country: Australia

                      #11
                      Five O sent me an email reply recommending this injector http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...e=STRK:MESE:IT

                      Sounds kinda good?
                      ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                      B5 1.8T quattro

                      B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                      • prj
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6308
                        • Country: Estonia

                        #12
                        A lot of bold claims, but zero data.

                        Latency is not a very big issue, linearity is. Them claiming they are more linear than EV14 - well, let's just say I would like to see some graphs.

                        Just go with EV14's.
                        I don't even see why you would get 1400cc injectors, unless you are running E85?
                        On gasoline, 750cc is above the limit that the stock lines and a single 044 will handle. Any bigger is pointless without serious mods to the fuel delivery system...
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                        • Pat D
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 748
                          • Country: Australia

                          #13
                          Big claims is what I was thinking as well, not much there and no reviews.

                          I'm thinking of leaving the stock fuel line feeding into a surge tank in the engine bay with an aeromotive A1000 to the rail, should be able to support a decent amount of fuel?
                          ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                          B5 1.8T quattro

                          B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                          • Pat D
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 748
                            • Country: Australia

                            #14
                            Will be on gasoline, but thinking of having a map for E85 as well
                            ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                            B5 1.8T quattro

                            B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #15
                              It's not that simple as "having a map for E85"...

                              E85 is a good fuel, but it's energy density is more than 30% lower, so your fuel delivery system would need to be able to handle up to 1000hp on gasoline, and that is not easy or cheap at all.
                              A single pump with stock lines will not do for sure.
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