Audi V8 4.2l engines - chip tuning?

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  • shone190
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Oct 2006
    • 527
    • Country: Serbia

    #1

    Audi V8 4.2l engines - chip tuning?

    Hi guys,

    I know that turbo engines has good response on chip tuning, but what about NA engines, concretely V8 4.2l 32V 340HP from Audi S8?

    I see that chip tuning companies show gain of about 20HP and 20Nm:



    Is this gain real to expect just from chip?
    Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion
  • quattrostyle
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2006
    • 6229
    • Country: Netherlands

    #2
    Well the NA engines from let's say at least the last 5 years don't make the power the factory states. Know a guy with a S6 V10 which barely made the factory power after a custom remap...So yes tuning helps a bit

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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #3
      Waste of time and money.
      Put that money towards some new piston rings for your engine. Will give you much better results than any kind of ECU tweaking.

      And for FSI engines - the problem with those is the carbon build up.
      http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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      • shone190
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Oct 2006
        • 527
        • Country: Serbia

        #4
        So they lie about power gain?!?!
        Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion

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        • prj
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #5
          There can be a tiny gain, but you are not going to really feel it.
          http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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          • shone190
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Oct 2006
            • 527
            • Country: Serbia

            #6
            I don't expect to feel 20HP on 340HP off course, I just wanted to know is it real to except or is it 3-4HP real gain
            Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion

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            • Henkjan
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Aug 2003
              • 1705
              • Country: Netherlands

              #7
              if the engine is set up for RON95, and the custom map is for RON98 there can be a real gain, but nothing worth bragging about, in the range of 5%

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              • shone190
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Oct 2006
                • 527
                • Country: Serbia

                #8
                5% is 17-18HP on engine which has 340HP
                Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion

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                • EspenW
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1534
                  • Country: Norway

                  #9
                  I had the pleasure of testing a tuned version of the 4.2L V8 in the S6+ of an acquaintance. Remap, exhaust with race cats, etc. Stock power was 326ps. Tuner claimed 400ps.
                  It pulled 250hp at the wheels. Not impressed.
                  We actually saw a 5whp gain across most of the entire rev range when we replaced the K&N cone filter with the stock airbox and stock paper filter.
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                  • shone190
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 527
                    • Country: Serbia

                    #10
                    How is it possible to get 250HP at the wheels from tuned AHK, even ABZ has to pull 250HP at the wheels?!?!
                    Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion

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                    • driftin jo
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2222
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by shone190
                      How is it possible to get 250HP at the wheels from tuned AHK, even ABZ has to pull 250HP at the wheels?!?!

                      Simple maths, factor 20% drive train loss, you get
                      326-20%= 260.8

                      so 250hp at the wheels is not very surprising as it's only a 10hp
                      loss from factory quoted figure, take into account these engines
                      don't make factory power for much more than 6 months and there you go.

                      My mates S8 made 259 at the wheels, factory 340 crank, now giving 323
                      crank.
                      Last edited by driftin jo; 5 October 2012, 18:50.

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