Whats causing oil in intake on rubuild turbo?

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  • hermanio
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2009
    • 800
    • Country: Netherlands

    #1

    Whats causing oil in intake on rubuild turbo?

    i have a problem with my freshly professional rebuild rs2 turbo. when the car is cold, after 15 seconds the car begins to smoke until its warmed up, then its fine and the smoke dissapears. i found some oil in the compressor side of the turbo, whats causing this ? my pcv valve is cleaned and not blocked, also the oil return line on the turbo is not blocked.


    i know i have s small leak on the turbo coolant line
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  • quattro84
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2006
    • 947
    • Country: Netherlands

    #2
    Are you sure there is not blockage in oil return line? Because it looks like you are over pressurizing the cartridge, which forces the oil through the compressor seal and most likely through the piston rings at the turbine as well.

    Under normal operation there can only be oil coming from the compressor when boostpressure is lower than oil pressure in cartridge, this happens to diesel engines when idling (no boost) with badly calibrated VGT's...

    Who did the rebuild?

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    • hermanio
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Jan 2009
      • 800
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      Rebuild is done by ett eindhoven but i dont think the rebuild is the problem. The car was smoking bad before the turbo was rebuild. Its better now but still there when cold, i also replaced some parts of the pcv system that were broken.
      I have taken the return line off and its not blocked at all
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      • hermanio
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jan 2009
        • 800
        • Country: Netherlands

        #4
        Does anyone have some ideas what could cause this ?
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        • europeanme
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Oct 2005
          • 3817
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          did you clean the PCV?.....

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Could be the breather, need to disconnect the pipe that goes to the turbo inlet pipe from the cam cover and block the pipe under the IM so that you can run the breather outlet to a tank and see if the problem persists without the breather connected to the inlet.
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • quattro84
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2006
              • 947
              • Country: Netherlands

              #7
              Check if the compressor wheel is clean... if not it is sucking oil from the PCV system.I cannot see oil coming from any other sources.

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              • prj
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2010
                • 6308
                • Country: Estonia

                #8
                Take your PCV feed, block it on the MAF-Turbo hose and take a coke bottle, then temporarily route your PCV to the coke bottle.

                If you see lots of oil in there - it is your PCV system or your engine.
                If there is no oil there, it is the turbo or it's oiling.
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                • hermanio
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 800
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #9
                  I think it can only be my pcv system because i have oil everywere. today i checked the big valve down at the crankcase and cleaned it with some carb cleaner. I hope thats it because i have oil everywere...
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                  • UrS4boy
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11859
                    • Country: Canada

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hermanio
                    I think it can only be my pcv system because i have oil everywere. today i checked the big valve down at the crankcase and cleaned it with some carb cleaner. I hope thats it because i have oil everywere...
                    Cleaning it with carb cleaner will not help if the diaphragm inside the pressure regulating valve is ripped/torn. Might make it worse. Follow the link below for more PCV system info.

                    Question: Where did the seven missing grid vanes on that RS2 MAF go? Hopefully not through the MAF.

                    PCV system link: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/22506.phtml

                    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                    • hermanio
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 800
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      The vanes were allready broken when i bought the car, i cleaned everything and will see if the problem is solved
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                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hermanio
                        The vanes were allready broken when i bought the car, i cleaned everything and will see if the problem is solved
                        Okay thanks. As for cleaning everything, as I said earlier, if the diaphragm in the pressure regulating (pancake) valve is ripped, its not going to help.
                        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                        • hermanio
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 800
                          • Country: Netherlands

                          #13
                          Will see, i will let it know
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                          • Mr G
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 196
                            • Country: South Africa

                            #14
                            Sorry to resurrect this old thread - but I'm having a similar issue - after a hard run/launch there is a lot of smoke on start up, but clears up when driving. No issues when driven normal. So I checked and the intake pipe and IC had lot's of oil in them.
                            @Hermanio - how did you resolve your problem?
                            I'd like to test the PCV as suggested by prj - but would appreciate if someone could be a bit more specific "Take your PCV feed, block it on the MAF-Turbo hose and take a coke bottle, then temporarily route your PCV to the coke bottle" - exactly where do I block it on the MAF-turbo hose and from where do route the PCV to the bottle - pictures would really help. Sorry I'm a bit of a noob at this and don't want to do the wrong thing an create further problems. I've got the breather system diagram/pic from ETKA - but can't seem to upload it here at the moment.
                            Thanx a whole lot
                            Cheers

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                            • quattro-nick
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1746
                              • Country: Belgium

                              #15
                              dont forget to clean the intercooler!
                              i agree with the other guy's that the problem probably will be your crankcase ventilation
                              You can also do a compression test to see that you do not have too much underpressure
                              audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
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