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  • peter_jensen
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jun 2007
    • 103
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    Manifold

    Hi S2 forum

    Since my kkk turbo end up in smoke I am looking for another seclusion.

    Has anyone tested this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-RS2-KKK...-/150660344368


    Marry Christmas
    Peter
    Vems since 2004
  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #2
    It's a knock off, this is the real one.



    Probabley made in China with s**t materials.
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    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
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    • rynaqui
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Mar 2012
      • 2752
      • Country: Malta

      #3
      As above, don't cheap out and go for the wagner EM, many members use it with good results
      1996 S2 ABY Silver

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      • prj
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #4
        Don't buy this manifold... the inside quality is shocking, there are tears between the cylinder runners and lots of small parts that will break off and ruin your turbo.
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        • peter_jensen
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Jun 2007
          • 103
          • Country: Denmark

          #5
          This is what you get






          Vems since 2004

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #6
            Yes, I told you...
            I also posted pictures a long time ago to warn people about this here:


            Here you go again:



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            • Rocco
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Aug 2007
              • 6393
              • Country: Spain

              #7
              i know a guy in Spain who has brought this manifold saying that he can buy 6 manifolds over one from Carsten

              i always say and advise "the rich guys pays one time,the poor ones double or more"
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              • tajgreidotu
                S2Forum Addict
                • May 2008
                • 324
                • Country: Spain

                #8
                Originally posted by peter_jensen
                This is what you get






                Definitely not my case. 40000km and still in good condition. Mine had way better look than the one of the pics

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                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tajgreidotu
                  Definitely not my case. 40000km and still in good condition. Mine had way better look than the one of the pics
                  Did you ever look inside it? Or did you assume that it is right?
                  I know who the supplier is, and their cast is bad. All of the manifolds on eBay are made by the same people and as time goes on the molds just get worse... But they were never right from the start. Take any picture of any of these on eBay where they show the collector and they will all have exactly the same fault - the issue I highlighted with the center wall missing between the two outer cylinders.

                  This means that flow wise this manifold is junk.
                  Yes, it will sort of work, as there is only one way for the exhaust gases to go, but it's not any better than the stock manifold with it's screwed up cyl 1 and cyl 5 runners.

                  There is also a question of what material they used.
                  Buy the original, or buy a RS2 replica (those seem decent). But the replica of this manifold is complete rubbish.
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                  • peter_jensen
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 103
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #10
                    Prj yes you warn me.

                    Did you ever test it?
                    Vems since 2004

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      Originally posted by peter_jensen
                      Prj yes you warn me.

                      Did you ever test it?
                      It was not my manifold, a customer bought it.
                      I told the customer to return it, and buy the real thing or get a RS2 replica, which he did, as anyone who understands things about manifolds can see from my pictures that the ebay manifold is useless from a performance standpoint...

                      When you clearly see that half the collector is missing and there are tears between the cylinder runners, which will heavily affect gas flow, it's kinda clear that it is no good.
                      For the same money buy an STR or RS2 replica, both will be MUCH better.

                      Or buy real Wagner, that is the best.
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                      • DeS
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 611
                        • Country: Poland

                        #12
                        These fotos are frightening.

                        Maybe new group buy for Wagner RS2 EM?

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                        • peter_jensen
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 103
                          • Country: Denmark

                          #13
                          Prj yes you correct

                          The question is is it good for ca. 400 hp or not. I did not expect a brilliant made manifold but still it must work ok. It can not be compared to the the one Carsten is making no doubt about that but what can you expect for 160 Euro including shipping.
                          Vems since 2004

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                          • SE_30
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1114
                            • Home: England Current: Israel

                            #14
                            Not a lot.

                            Before buying any performance part you always need to do the research and look through forums for advice, usually words like, stay away or pay the extra for better quality. School boy error if you've read the warnings and still bought..

                            Originally posted by peter_jensen
                            what can you expect for 160 Euro including shipping.
                            Stuart
                            B2 90 quattro with boost

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #15
                              Originally posted by peter_jensen
                              Prj yes you correct

                              The question is is it good for ca. 400 hp or not. I did not expect a brilliant made manifold but still it must work ok. It can not be compared to the the one Carsten is making no doubt about that but what can you expect for 160 Euro including shipping.
                              What kind of question is this?

                              There is effectively no collector in that manifold, there are big tears between cylinders so the exhaust gases and flows from the different cylinders bounce around in that manifold.

                              It's not an exhaust manifold, it's a piece of metal that looks like an exhaust manifold. It has nothing in common with an exhaust manifold other than that it bolts up on the flanges...
                              You asked about it, you were told it is a scam, and you decided to go ahead with it anyway. You see that it's completel f*cked inside, and you still want to put it on your car.

                              So I think does not matter what I say at this point anymore. Do whatever you want to your car
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