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  • Fat Audi 80
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2004
    • 10547
    • Country: England

    #16
    Originally posted by johne
    Steve, equally, happy to help.

    I've done my belt twice and each time I locked the crank by removing the flywheel tooth counting sensor and locked the flywheel ring gear. I know the purists won't agree with me but it's worked fine so far.

    Agree that you need the 3/4 socket and bar to undo the crank bolt although then again I've managed twice with a 1/2 inch one and one breakage I now have a 3/4 one waiting for the next time.......

    I would recommend changing the waterpump at the same time given that it's not expensive - well at least a GSF or ECP patten part isn't, which is what I've used with no problems.

    John
    Same again, thanks John I appreciate the offer.

    I would like to do it one weekend in April, preferably before the 26th as I don't fancy doing it over my birthday weekend!

    I will let you know.

    Cheers,

    Steve
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    • Fat Audi 80
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2004
      • 10547
      • Country: England

      #17
      Help! Tools and parts have arrived, but I no longer have a crank locking tool. Can anyone lend me one please? I am happy to pay postage and return it ASAP...

      Thanks

      Steve
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      • merlin's S4
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jan 2005
        • 1539
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        I've got one! Think ABY and AAN are the same. 3256 iirc. Feel free to send a pm if you're still stuck.
        '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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        • merlin's S4
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jan 2005
          • 1539
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Originally posted by K Simmonds
          It should do the job just fine but you'll probably have to wedge it against the floor or the the stub mount as opposed to it locking nicely on TDC like with the correct tool.
          Just for reference the 3256 tool doesn't lock at TDC. Don't ask me why!!
          '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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          • Fat Audi 80
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            • Jan 2004
            • 10547
            • Country: England

            #20
            Originally posted by merlin's S4
            I've got one! Think ABY and AAN are the same. 3256 iirc. Feel free to send a pm if you're still stuck.
            You have PM!
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            • Fat Audi 80
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              • Jan 2004
              • 10547
              • Country: England

              #21
              Update:

              If you ignore my posts regarding the problems bleeding the cooling system, this has been a success! Cambelt, tension roller, water pump were all changed without too many problems.

              I should add for completeness that the 3256 tool does not fit the ABY without modification. I have covered the details of the modification here: http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5042

              Basically, you need a length of M10 studding and some washer / nuts as spacers in order to bolt the locking tool to the block....

              I will be providing these with the tool when I send it back so that others don't have to run down to their local B&Q

              Cheers,

              Steve
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              • audinut
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                • Jul 2009
                • 2195
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                just did mine - got the 200nm fine but wasnt overly confident i got a true 180 degrees ..... 3/4 bar and extension and i was hanging off it ...
                NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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                • rj scotty
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                  • May 2006
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                  #23
                  I bet you where close enough
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                  • Fat Audi 80
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10547
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by audinut
                    just did mine - got the 200nm fine but wasnt overly confident i got a true 180 degrees ..... 3/4 bar and extension and i was hanging off it ...
                    Yeah, I only managed 100 degrees after 200Nm, hanging off a 1m 3/4" breaker bar, but then I am a lightweight 70kg
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                    • 4WheelDrifter
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                      • Oct 2004
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                      #25
                      Blimey Steve. You're as heavy as that? Either you've put on weight since I last saw you, or I need to get down the pie shop!

                      By my reckoning. If you stand on the bar when it's horizontal, 655mm from the centre bolt, that should get you 450Nm.
                      I have to use the full metre bar with Steph, aka my special tool.
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                      • re2500
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                        • May 2007
                        • 2185
                        • Country: Wales

                        #26
                        Yeah that final 180deg is a pain! I think Kit and i managed about 160-170 deg. That was with Kit bouncing up and down on his bendy 3/4" breaker bar.
                        TBH i think 180deg is a bit overkill. Im sure 100deg will be fine, the bolt will be stretched nicely.
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                        • 4WheelDrifter
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                          • Oct 2004
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                          #27
                          This is why I rarely use a torque wrench. Tightening things by feel is a much better idea, as long as you have experience of what feels right, and what feels wrong. But I recommend getting a feel for what feels wrong on less important stuff.
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                          • re2500
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                            • May 2007
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                            #28
                            Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                            03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                            01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                            "Difficult is worth doing"

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                            • Fat Audi 80
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                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10547
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                              Blimey Steve. You're as heavy as that? Either you've put on weight since I last saw you, or I need to get down the pie shop!

                              By my reckoning. If you stand on the bar when it's horizontal, 655mm from the centre bolt, that should get you 450Nm.
                              I have to use the full metre bar with Steph, aka my special tool.
                              Yeah, I'm 70kgs on a good day, 66 if i am feeling light!

                              i am happy with the torque achieved on my crank bolt.

                              incidentally, i am now down on Somerset and the S2 had made the trip in heavy traffic no problem. i am very happy with the car again....
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                              • 4WheelDrifter
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                                • Oct 2004
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                                Yeah, I'm 70kgs on a good day, 66 if i am feeling light!

                                i am happy with the torque achieved on my crank bolt.

                                incidentally, i am now down on Somerset and the S2 had made the trip in heavy traffic no problem. i am very happy with the car again....
                                About the same as me then.
                                If you were hanging off of the end of a metre long bar, then I would make that a force of ~686Nm, depending on tide times and so on.
                                So I would think it's tight enough.

                                It's good to know it's all test driven and checked.
                                Incidentally I am up in Somerset too. Making use of proper internet availability.
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