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  • YELL MAN
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Dec 2005
    • 535
    • Country: Shetland Islands

    #1

    New POS Units?

    Has anyone bought any new POS units recently? I had bother with one of mine before but did the switch to spare channel trick and that solved it, It seems to have happened again though so I want to replace them with new ones.

    Does anyone know where is the best place to buy them from?

    Cheers.
    1994 Indigo Blue S2 coupe
    1994 80 Avant 1.9 TDI
    2005 Yamaha Fazer 1000
    1953 AJS Model 18S
  • benntenn67
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2009
    • 859
    • Country: England

    #2
    TPS, the stealers or Bosch direct - they are all the same price new, £175 ish
    Audi S2 Coupe 1995
    VW Passat GL5 (hatch) 1986
    VW Passat GL 1.8 (saloon) 1986
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    • YELL MAN
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Dec 2005
      • 535
      • Country: Shetland Islands

      #3
      OK cheers for that.
      1994 Indigo Blue S2 coupe
      1994 80 Avant 1.9 TDI
      2005 Yamaha Fazer 1000
      1953 AJS Model 18S

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Go to TFSi coils, much better way to spend the money with the future in mind
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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          POS info with alternative

          The PN for the AAN, ABY and ADU OE Bosch POS is 4A0905351A. In jamb, you can also use a brown Hitachi or Beru from a wasted-spark ABC or AAH V6, PN 4A0905351 (no "A").

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          • YELL MAN
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Dec 2005
            • 535
            • Country: Shetland Islands

            #6
            Cheers guys, I have been considering going for a coil conversion tbh. And considering the cost of the POS it is looking like the better plan all the time. The standard coil wiring must be coming close to failure by now too.
            1994 Indigo Blue S2 coupe
            1994 80 Avant 1.9 TDI
            2005 Yamaha Fazer 1000
            1953 AJS Model 18S

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            • DJones
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2005
              • 2020
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              One thing that does keep puzzling me, so many threads keep saying that new Audi's are not as good or as we'll built as the early to mid 90's cars but I see so many threads pushing for the use of modern coils.

              To be honest my mrs had a 1.8t and now a 2.0tfsi and both have had coil problems (as did both my B5 RS4's), I honestly believe that money fixing the standard
              I5 stuff is well spent, when I built my engine I changed everything and not had one ignition problem and its pulling 2 bar most of the time..

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              • Monkeymagic
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Mar 2012
                • 3419
                • Country: England

                #8
                I see lots of problems with mis fires on 2.0 tfsi many from the state of the inlet valves looking like they belong on an old diesel. Direct injection at its best? I'll stick to the old stuff!

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                • YELL MAN
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 535
                  • Country: Shetland Islands

                  #9
                  The fact that the car is almost 20 year old and as far as I know still running its original coils goes to show that the old stuff was certainly made to last.
                  1994 Indigo Blue S2 coupe
                  1994 80 Avant 1.9 TDI
                  2005 Yamaha Fazer 1000
                  1953 AJS Model 18S

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                  • DJones
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2020
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by YELL MAN
                    The fact that the car is almost 20 year old and as far as I know still running its original coils goes to show that the old stuff was certainly made to last.
                    I agree, most of us expect myricals from 200k plus equipment and on many occasions get it..

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      The direct injection misfiring has nothing to do with coils.
                      The 2.0 TFSi coils had a recall early in their life, but that's sorted for ages now.

                      With 2.5ms dwell time the 2.0 TFSi coils easily do 40 psi without misfiring.
                      They also cost 30 quid a pop - it is a no-brainer for me.

                      Most failures with those coils are due to people running incorrect dwell time - after the recall was done there are few failures on OEM cars.

                      In my experience of mapping close to a hundred cars with the coil conversion I never had issues with any coils that were made by Bosch or Beru - not a single one failed, and I gave them tons of boost. Avoid other, cheap manufacturers though.
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                      • diesel des
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3896

                        #12
                        I agree with what your saying guys, the new stuff isn't as good long term. But, it's easy replaced compared to pos system and hard wired coils. Also you can get a spare in the local motorfactor on a Sunday, or do what I do, keep a genuine one in the boot to change at side of road costing 25quid. They are just so plentiful and cheap and easy changed...

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          I don't think anyone would deny that the old stuff is built to last, and certianly for the first 20 years of its life I'm sure it was ultra reliable. But at £175 each for a POS and £80 + each for a coil, plus all the wiring being pretty old & brittle, the original system is hugely expensive to renew. £300 for a set of new OEM coils and a harness is a much more realistic prospect
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • johne
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1405
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by prj
                            With 2.5ms dwell time the 2.0 TFSi coils easily do 40 psi without misfiring.
                            Prj, I appreciate dwell is important so will TFSI coils work OK with the dwell time of a standard ABY Motronic?

                            John

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                            • UrS4boy
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11859
                              • Country: Canada

                              #15
                              Originally posted by johne
                              Prj, I appreciate dwell is important so will TFSI coils work OK with the dwell time of a standard ABY Motronic? John
                              Not prj but I believe it is 4.0 or 4.5 millisec.
                              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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