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  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #1

    Fuel Pump Testing Kit DIY

    Very often when your car doesn't start, it is either the G40 Cam Senor or the Fuel Pump. This DIY is intended to confirm that your fuel pump is working or not.

    I did this yesterday and wrote it up for my home forum. It applies to C4 UrS4/S6s and, with your help on S2/RS2 specifics, it might be adapted to the S2/RS2. (Will need your photos).

    Here is the C4 UrS version:

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    The last time I used one of these it was Sean D.'s (quattro20V's)(local to me) and it was 2004. However, the topic came up recently so I decided to put my own together and document it. NOTE: If you are not comfortable with your skills, electricty and raw fuel, DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS. (YMMV) ;>)

    Here are the supplies:

    Clockwise from the top:

    1. Crimpers (I used the red-handed ratcheting one)
    2. Lamp Cord rotary switches (2 in a box for $5)
    3. My multi-blade screw driver (with the fine Phillips needed for the rotary switch)
    4. Cheap wire stripper and cutter
    5. The end off an old battery charger (normal aligator clips are too small for this application)
    6. 14-16 gauge spade connector
    7. A spool of 14 gauge wire
    8. 6 feet of 1/2" I.D. vinyl hose (not fuel grade for this trial).
    9. Gear clamps
    10. Adapter fitting off a used C4 fuel filter saved for this purpose (fits on the fuel feed line, as shown later)



    I ended up using about 82 inches (208 cm) of wire.

    Step 1: Install the battery clip on one end of the wire. I stripped 1/2" of the wire, then crimped and soldered the wire to the clip. Then I put heat shrink over the wire and the clip end.

    Step 2: Strip the other end of the wire (about 3/8") and crimp on the spade connector.

    Step 3: Trial the location of the switch by clipping the battery clip to the plastic of the (+) post under the hood and running the spade end to the drivers end of the dash (the fuse panel). I selected a location near the strut tower plastic cap. It has a good view of the fuel coming out of the fuel line (more to follow).

    Step 4: Install the rotary switch making sure that the wire is stabbed by the brass "pins". Figure out which position is off and which is on if not marked with "ON" and "OFF".

    Should end up something like this, a single wire fuel pump test harness:



    Step 5. Install the fuel filter adapter in the vinyl hose. Tighten the gear clamp.

    Step 6: Install fuel pump testing hose on the fuel pump feed (upper fuel line on the left side of the car, by the brake fluid reservoir). 19 mm wrench for the fitting and 14 mm for the fuel line fitting. Don't over tighten. Put the discharge end of the hose outside the car, into a stable, fuel tolerant, container.



    Step 7: Remove the cover on the fuse panel on the driver's end of the dash. Find Fuse 17 - Yellow 20 Amp - third row from the left, third from the top (probably the only 20 Amp one):



    Step 8: Remove Fuse 17 and install the spade connector end of the test harness in the <b>*RIGHT*</b> female fuse receiver pin.



    Step 9: Run the battery clip end of the fuel pump test harness over to the (+) terminal on the firewall. With the rotary switch in the OFF position AND the end of the fuel test hose in the stable fuel-tolerant container, clip the battery clip to the (+) post on the fire wall.



    Step 10: With the switch off and the fuel receiver container empty, turn the switch to ON for exactly 15 seconds and measure the amount of fuel. Should be about 675 mL. If you get less or nothing, you have a fuel pump problem (assuming your test harness is good).

    (Excuse the mess, I have the fuel rail off to replace the fuel injector inserts):



    Here are the test specs:

    Last edited by UrS4boy; 13 October 2013, 23:54.
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Hmmm....the DIY might not work for the RHD C4 UrSs if there is no remote (+) terminal under the bonnet. (Or is there?). I think we had this conversation before (or did we?)

    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • Greg_S
      Administrator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12430
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Nice write up
      Greg

      S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

      '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        Originally posted by UrS4boy
        Hmmm....the DIY might not work for the RHD C4 UrSs if there is no remote (+) terminal under the bonnet. (Or is there?). I think we had this conversation before (or did we?)
        vbmica from New Zealand has confirmed that there is no (+) post under the hood on a RHD 1994 UrS4. Hmm... where is a quick and easy source of unswitched 12V power besides the battery under the rear seat of a RHD C4 UrS?
        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Originally posted by Greg_S
          Nice write up
          Thanks Greg. Apparently not directly applicable to RHD C4 UrS4/S6s until we get an easy source of power (besides the battery). (I was trying to avoid that).
          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • WidowmakerS2
            S2Forum Addict
            • Oct 2007
            • 354
            • Current: Norway

            #6
            I'm doing something like this on a S4.

            Isn't it possible to replace the fuel pump relay with a fog light relay just to make the pump run on ignition ON?
            If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

            -CQ 3b "S2".

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by WidowmakerS2
              I'm doing something like this on a S4. Isn't it possible to replace the fuel pump relay with a fog light relay just to make the pump run on ignition ON?
              Try it and let us know. My answer at this point is NO.

              The J17 FP relay is powered from the No. 15 bus with the ignition switch on BUT that power does not energize the relay and provide power to the various devices until the ECU takes that power to ground through ECU Pin T55/3.

              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Nice guide. I just pull the cover off the fuel pump relay and activate it with a piece of rubber hose
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                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • mcandmar
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Error404
                  Nice guide. I just pull the cover off the fuel pump relay and activate it with a piece of rubber hose
                  Just use your finger you big girls blouse, it won’t bite you
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                  94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    haha, I was more worried about a spark blowing up my garage or something
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                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Error404
                      Nice guide. I just pull the cover off the fuel pump relay and activate it with a piece of rubber hose
                      The problem with that, in my opinion, is the lack of control and/or the need for a two person operation, i.e. one to activate the relay the other to make sure that the hose going into the measuring container stays in the measuring container during the 15 second test. With my "kit", with the switch, it is a one person operation.

                      But whatever floats your boat.

                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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