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  • 20Vcqdriver
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2007
    • 829
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Noise needs identifying asap

    Need some help, engine started to develop a strange rattle from the exhaust side so seeing as the turbo needed new seals anyway sent it off to CR Turbos for an overhaul and said that apart from knackered seals the turbo was perfect and so as expected once it was all back on, started car up and noise still there. See link: http://youtu.be/Tm7jLiyV9uA Any advise appreciated. Driving the car shows no signs of a problem, still silky smooth and pulling standard boost OK (Due to go to Automark on 11th Novemebr for proper map hence need to get this sorted asap)
    1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
    2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
    2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    The noise is coming from those crap hardware store bolts that were used on the dump tube and the turbo.

    I am only NOT half serious about the bolts.

    As for the noise, do you own a piece of wooden dowel or a long (15") screwdriver? If so, start the engine and place one end of the dowel (or screwdriver) on the noise suspect and put you ear to the other. Keep trying until the noise is the loudest.

    To be honest, based on your story, I have to suspect that the turbo rebuild has gone pear-shaped and something inside is causing the noise.

    The real tool is an automotive stethoscope:

    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • twoqu
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Sep 2003
      • 3103

      #3
      Have you got the flexy pipe on the right way? There is an arrow on it to aid fitment believe it or not!

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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        Dump Tube Direction Info

        Originally posted by twoqu
        Have you got the flexy pipe on the right way? There is an arrow on it to aid fitment believe it or not!
        That would be a lucky and quick fix if it is right. Also would give him a chance to redeem himself on those crap bolts.

        Here is the arrow (in this case pointed the WRONG way):

        More dump tube direction info here: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/116238.phtml

        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Sounds like a gasket leaking to me
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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by Error404
            Sounds like a gasket leaking to me
            Caused by crap bolts.
            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • AndyP
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Feb 2004
              • 6049
              • Country: England

              #7
              Get a piece of tissue and hold it around the joints, you'll see it flutter if you have a leak
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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Just £3 a month will help privide this Audi owner with new bolts to keep his machine healthy........ please help. Text "HELP" to 881166
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • UrS4boy
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 11859
                  • Country: Canada

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Error404
                  Just £3 a month will help privide this Audi owner with new bolts to keep his machine healthy........ please help. Text "HELP" to 881166
                  RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                  94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                  • 20Vcqdriver
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 829
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Error404
                    Just £3 a month will help privide this Audi owner with new bolts to keep his machine healthy........ please help. Text "HELP" to 881166
                    Yeah OK but not guilty as they were supplied not by me but fitted by Pipewerx when they did the downpipe for me
                    Have a spare pipe and wastegate so I'll try that tonight, Thanks for input
                    1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                    2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                    2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 20Vcqdriver
                      ...Have a spare pipe and wastegate so I'll try that tonight, Thanks for input
                      If you haven't narrowed down the sound source with a dowel/long screwdriver/automotive stethoscope, that is a lot of work for a trial and error solution.

                      Just sayin'
                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • 20Vcqdriver
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 829
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by UrS4boy
                        If you haven't narrowed down the sound source with a dowel/long screwdriver/automotive stethoscope, that is a lot of work for a trial and error solution.

                        Just sayin'
                        Screwdriver to ear was inconclusive in that the whole exhaust area from the flex to the turbo and thereabouts all sounds very similar.....
                        1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                        2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                        2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                        • 20Vcqdriver
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 829
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Going to remove wastegate and flex and block open ends and start on tickover, kill or cure if its still there I will have to take another look at refurbed turbo..... Fingers crossed..
                          1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                          2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                          2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                          • 20Vcqdriver
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 829
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Well just have one thing to say................. SORTED
                            All ready now for its trip to Automark on 11th November
                            1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                            2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                            2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                            • UrS4boy
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11859
                              • Country: Canada

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 20Vcqdriver
                              Well just have one thing to say................. SORTED:
                              No no no. You don't get away that easy. We need to know what the problem was and what the solution was so we know what to sugges to the next person with this tick tick tick problem.

                              Spill the beans.

                              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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