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  • bilko0795
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Feb 2011
    • 1883
    • Country: Wales

    #1

    NG/7A engine

    As a comparison are all I5 engines the same I,e 2.3 the same as our 2.2 I have just acquired a NG or 7a engine not sure of engine code yet for nowt, and was wondering would all the ancillaries of my engine bolt straight on if so I would like to do up the engine to look as good as some of the ones on here. I already have loads of new bits and bobs which I have been collecting form the stealers before they go extinct. Would be a nice project for over the winter.
  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7627
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    The block itself is pretty much identical apart from the larger bore diameter and the crank is the same, however everything else is different. So the only satisfactory way to use it for an S2 engine would be to fully rebuild it with custom pistons and all new internals apart from the crank and maybe oil pump.

    I have an NG block as my spare, if I ever press it in to service I'll be going the Eastern European ghetto stroker route, Supra pistons and BMW rods with the crank reground to suit giving approx 2.4l. If I had more money I'd be doing this regardless.
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • bilko0795
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Feb 2011
      • 1883
      • Country: Wales

      #3
      So the head from my engine can't be used on this block then.

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        IIRC you have an ABY Ray?

        If so you will find there are a few subtle differences. 7A can be used as it has the piston cooling jets. IIRC the NG does not and therefore is not suitable for FI use.
        If you use a 7A you will need new pistons, and you will need to use the earlier 7A/3B oil pump, water pump and timing belt arrangement is there is no mounting on the 7A/3B block for the ABY/AAN tensioner. Crank is the same. HTH
        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
        Indigo ABY coupé
        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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        • Rocco
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Aug 2007
          • 6393
          • Country: Spain

          #5
          I've a custom copper head gasket to use with 83mm pistons if someone needs
          RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
          BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
          LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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          • K Simmonds
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Dec 2007
            • 7627
            • Country: Wales

            #6
            The NG has the under piston oil cooling jets
            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
            1994 MTM RS2.
            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
            2000 B5 TQS.

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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              ah, cool well it should be useable then
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • bilko0795
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Feb 2011
                • 1883
                • Country: Wales

                #8
                Cheers Alex

                I am in two minds whether to buy a little run around as Im only doing 16miles a day back and fro work and it just sits on the drive all w/end as I drive artics for a living w/ends the little lady ferries me around in her S3 I just bought her so thinking put in the garage and strip it all down and build it back up replacing bits and bobs as I go along plus a nice paint job on the block, I don't think I need a complete re-build as the car as only got 120,000 on the clock and apart from little niggles runs sweet. So I think I will leave the engine in my mates garage.

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7627
                  • Country: Wales

                  #9
                  120K is just about run in for these engines.
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    no need to pull it apart unless you want to add rods or solve problems
                    If it runs well I'd leave it be. You can do a really amazing clean-up though like Tom's RS America without opening the engine
                    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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