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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #16
    What are you going to use the car for? I would have thought that a GT42 is going to have monumental lag for a road car meaning that, especially on UK roads, you'll hardly ever get the chance to open it up.
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    • G60Rallye
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Dec 2006
      • 1321
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      I would echo what has already been said about that turbo being drag racing only. You are not going to get it going on the road even with a 2.5. As for what you would need to extract everything from the turbo you will need to put over 10k into the engine easy.

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      • driftin jo
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Sep 2007
        • 2222
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        I agree, even if you can get the GT42 for free it would cost you a lot less to buy a
        GTX 3076, which will make 600+ hp and the supporting mods will be half the cost of the 42, you will also have much less lag and no need for over 7.5k rpm, this
        alone will save you a fortune.

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        • mac2226
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jun 2008
          • 1289
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          I'm sure will20v is using a gt42 with a 2.2 but don't no about head work besides twin 7a custom cams engine stock pistons and uprated rods I've been told
          will be fine and he had his standard maf on cold pressure side mapped by mrc best of asking him he made 600+ and maxed out his injectors 750cc so I would go 1000cc to be safe and fuel pumps I would def run two one in tank and one inline as I'm doing so on my small gt35 but built to take that and more

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          • vcosmin
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Apr 2008
            • 644
            • Country: Romania

            #20
            With a GT42 you'll be slower than most budget tuned hot hatches on regular road. You probabil will have a 1500rpm - powerband or lower with stock revlimit. AFAIK there was a sugestion on forum - buy the smallest turbo that can give you the power you want - at least for street use :-).

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            • driftin jo
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Sep 2007
              • 2222
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Originally posted by mac2226
              I'm sure will20v is using a gt42 with a 2.2 but don't no about head work besides twin 7a custom cams engine stock pistons and uprated rods I've been told
              will be fine and he had his standard maf on cold pressure side mapped by mrc best of asking him he made 600+ and maxed out his injectors 750cc so I would go 1000cc to be safe and fuel pumps I would def run two one in tank and one inline as I'm doing so on my small gt35 but built to take that and more
              If your making anything less than 800hp with a GT42 you
              are using the wrong turbo, you've just got loads of lag for no reason.

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              • caterpillar
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2004
                • 2480

                #22
                you may make hybrid... use the gt40 bearing and hotside (0,94) and gt 42 or 45 cold side,and 3,5" downpipin and exaust...

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                • mac2226
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1289
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by driftin jo
                  If your making anything less than 800hp with a GT42 you
                  are using the wrong turbo, you've just got loads of lag for no reason.
                  Yes if it was not mapped fully for a reason...every one has got different opinions but lag is not on people minds when you go gt42 it's what power it can achieve and a big smile on your face when boost comes in

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                  • bigcooler
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 229
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    every one has got different opinions but lag is not on people minds when you go gt42 it's what power it can achieve and a big smile on your face when boost comes in [/QUOTE]

                    This pretty much right, I have no interest in racing people on the road and don't have the funds to support racing it competitively. I simply have always been fascinated by big turbo's and would love to have a car with a big turbo

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                    • A80Avant
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 10873
                      • Country: Greece

                      #25
                      Yes. You won't get a smile on your face with this turbo. A 1000 rpm at most power band is pointless. Furthermore a 800+ engine requires a huge amount of maintenance when compared to a 500 hp one

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                      • driftin jo
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2222
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        You missing the point, to build an engine around a GT42 to it's full potential (850-1000hp) is going to cost a least twice as much as building an engine to make 600hp. Not only that but the 600hp motor will be quite reliable were as the 1000 hp motor will need rebuilding ever 5 mins.

                        The other thing is also that the drive train will not take 1000hp in stock form either so more mega bucks on that also.

                        Shooting for ~600 hp you can keep stock pistons, just do the rods, keep revs down so you don't need new bearings every weekend and don't need a dry sump system (saves a fortune).

                        To give you an idea a ~600hp car you can drive can be done for 5-7k and a 1000hp car will cost you 25-30k, if you don't belive me speak to people with that power level.

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                        • Jonnybravo
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2051
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Having driven a Skyline with a 42 on the road I would certainly avoid using it unless its a dedicated drag car. I don't think we had even seen .2bar by 4000rpm, was moving by 5000rpm though but due to a 8k rev limit the power band was narrow. As a comparison we did a 2.5l Skyline ( above was a 2wd gtr motor ) with a built engine, Cosworth ported head, cams and a billet 3076, it made 570 on the dyno and would destroy the Skyline running the 42 as it was so responsive and still making plenty of power above 7500rpm making it a VERY fast road car, come to think about it the car was also full road trim R33 where as the other was fully stripped R32 which are much lighter.

                          GT42 will look good on a spec sheet, unfortunately the reality is that they offer poor performance on a street car and due to the massive power they can achieve they need a well specced engine and a well sorted transmission setup if you dont want to spend more time off the road then on it.

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                          • bigcooler
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 229
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Point taken, this is the sort of info I have been looking for. Basically I want something that will make me s**t myself every time I drive it.

                            What would be my options?

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                            • V6quattro
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 949
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #29
                              Originally posted by bigcooler
                              Point taken, this is the sort of info I have been looking for. Basically I want something that will make me s**t myself every time I drive it.

                              What would be my options?
                              That's what I wanted to. But you get almost immediately used to the power and always want more
                              1360kg/600Whp Avant 0-200km/h 9sec

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                              • jsws3
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 1174
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bigcooler
                                Point taken, this is the sort of info I have been looking for. Basically I want something that will make me s**t myself every time I drive it.

                                What would be my options?
                                I think a well set up engine with about 500-550 will make you poo your pants .

                                Allso is the car set up for more power ie brakes suspension ect ect .

                                I my self know how you feel thinking more is best I'm going for around 600 but went out in a car running 450ish and it was a monster round town .

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