ABY ECU Intermittent issue

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  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #121
    Originally posted by edge_devil
    .....in the picture you can see the valve with the exit towards the camera going to the hose between the turbo and the intercooler,
    Hard to confirm/deny anything from that photo (sorry) but I can tell you straight up NO WGFV HOSE GOES TO ANYTHING [blinking red sirens]*AFTER*[/blinking red sirens] THE TURBO, i.e. NOT to the hose between the turbo and the intercooler.

    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • edge_devil
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Jun 2009
      • 186
      • Country: England

      #122
      The turbo hose that came off the original car had a small hose for the WGFV just after egress from the turbo, before the intercooler, I just remade that with the silicon pipes above....


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      • edge_devil
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        • Jun 2009
        • 186
        • Country: England

        #123
        Just to clarify... One side of the WGFV is pressurised from the turbo, one side is in the intact tract before the turbo, and one goes to the wastegate. What I hadn't seen during installation was a takeoff on the turbo itself, just in the hose after the turbo...


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        • twoqu
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          • Sep 2003
          • 3103

          #124
          Yes but the ports need to be oriented correctly or it will not function as Audi intended.
          Shouldn't be too difficult to check/rectify if necessary.
          We are basically trying to find anything that isn't as it should be in a factory install.

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          • edge_devil
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            • Jun 2009
            • 186
            • Country: England

            #125
            So as I understand it, the ONLY indicator on the N75 is one of the two opposing pipes is longer than the other one, and this longer one goes to turbo out(boosted) air, the opposite side to the wastegate and the lower one to the inlet tract between maf and turbo.


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            • UrS4boy
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              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #126
              Originally posted by twoqu
              ...We are basically trying to find anything that isn't as it should be in a factory install.
              Agree. An unlabeled photo of a Medusa-head of purple hoses doesn't help us to help Mr. Devil.

              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • twoqu
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Sep 2003
                • 3103

                #127
                Nope!
                The long one on the side goes into what we would call the MAF to turbo hose which essentially is vacuum. On the OE hose it is pushed into a small bore opening which of course you don't have.
                The one opposite it goes to the lower port of the wastegate.
                The one on the bottom goes usually to the nipple fitting on the turbo compressor which is essentially pressure.
                Dave has provided a link with enough information to allow ID and orientation.

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                • edge_devil
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                  • Jun 2009
                  • 186
                  • Country: England

                  #128
                  Sorry don't have my laptop to hand to label the picture....but all clear which goes where....now to test!!! ...and I'll provide a labelled diagram later, but photos of the new setup may be harder as the bodyshell is now on


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                  • edge_devil
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                    • Jun 2009
                    • 186
                    • Country: England

                    #129
                    Hi my name is Tim and I'm a village idiot....its been two days since I did something really stoopid!!!



                    ...yep that's the nipple with nuffing on it! Now fixed and I removed the N75 and connected it back up according to the diagrams. Hopefully a quick run at lunch time with the N75 disconnected from the ecu I should see a difference!

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                    • edge_devil
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 186
                      • Country: England

                      #130
                      Yay, idiot removed from the equation......

                      With N75 disconnected I am now getting a reliable .04-0.45 of boost, so that is a big Plus. I drove out with the N75 disconnected, stopped, reconnected it, switched off the battery for a minute and then drove back. This still only went to 0.4-0.5 boost, what would I expect from a normal engine?

                      I'll do the tests later that let the ECU switch the N75 on/off so I can confirm that is working, but I had done that a week or two back so I'm expecting that is all fine.

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                      • twoqu
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3103

                        #131
                        Should be nearer 1bar!
                        Best to check for codes though first just in case. If no codes are shown and you are only getting that level of boost its possible if you are on ABY SW that the MFTS has an overheat signal which limits boost but does not throw a code. The SW is important as on the AAN this function is not used. I think we ID the modified SW as AAN based due to the 4A0 ID.
                        If you have the MFTS connected up (the large brass thing in the water rail on the cylinder head) you can try and disconnect it and see if full boost is restored.

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                        • edge_devil
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 186
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                          #132
                          We've now got stock ABY code in thanks to you Robin, but I can try the MFTS as you say.

                          Still no fault codes from the box, just checked... the hunt continues!

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                          • edge_devil
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                            • Jun 2009
                            • 186
                            • Country: England

                            #133
                            ABY ECU Intermittent issue

                            Just thinks btw, I can try the mfts, but also I can drop the Nero chips back in and see if they develop more boost as they are adu code and not reliant on the mfts...

                            Glad I made the ecu more accessible!


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                            • twoqu
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3103

                              #134
                              But that circumvents the idea of trouble shooting in a stock config! Of course its up to you. Its safer to use stock until you are certain everything is as it should be. I guess you are only using the MFTS for the ecu anyway so if its faulty you can just leave it disconnected if the theory holds up.

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                              • edge_devil
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                                • Jun 2009
                                • 186
                                • Country: England

                                #135
                                Your logic is sound

                                ...so the temp sender on the back of the head is the only one used...but is the MFTS only used for the dash?

                                I'm using my separate dash and temp sender so if that's all no issue!

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