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  • 220bhp
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    • Nov 2004
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    #1

    S6 wont start

    The battery on my s6 was to low to start the car. So I jumped it and it started straight away so I left it running for a for a while. When I came to check it had stopped running.
    Battery still wouldn't turn the car over so I plug the charger in and left it to charge up.
    When I tried to start it fired up for a few seconds then coughed and died. now it wont start no life at all. The battery is quite new, and it has fuel. I don't think its the hall sender as it fired up for a while, plus I have replaced this some time ago.
    Any Ideas would be much appreciated. as I have two cars with problems now.
  • UrS4boy
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    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Potential solutions to why your AAN/ABY/ADU isn't starting

    Try going through this:

    The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums
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    • 220bhp
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      #3
      Thanks for that Dave, interesting read. My suspicions are fuel. Possibly fuel pump. It behaved like it was running out of fuel. I have no idea where the fuel pump is or how to check it.

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      • UrS4boy
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        • Feb 2006
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        #4
        C4 UrS Fuel Pump Testing and Replacement

        Originally posted by 220bhp
        Thanks for that Dave, interesting read. My suspicions are fuel. Possibly fuel pump. It behaved like it was running out of fuel. I have no idea where the fuel pump is or how to check it.
        There are hyperlinks to the info you need in that non-starting diagnostic post. But to help you along, I'll give you these:

        Building a fuel pump test harness (might need modifications for RHD cars):

        The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


        C4 UrS Fuel Pump Testing and replacement:



        The C4 fuel pump lives under the round black access cover in this photo

        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • 220bhp
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          #5
          I have 12v to the fuel pump, but I cannot hear it running, so I assume that its the pump that's failed. I have one from my s2 coupe can I use this I wonder.

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          • newsh
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            • Aug 2003
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            #6
            The pump will only run when you're cranking the engine over.

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            • vti2
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              #7
              Hall sensor

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              • UrS4boy
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                • Feb 2006
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                #8
                Originally posted by 220bhp
                I have 12v to the fuel pump, but I cannot hear it running, so I assume that its the pump that's failed. I have one from my s2 coupe can I use this I wonder.
                Before you go there, PLEASE USE the information that I provided above to test your UrS6 fuel pump in-situ by applying 12V to the downstream side of the No. 17 fuse holder, etc.

                I think there were two varieties of S2 pump so it wouldn't necessarily work. The one you want looks like this:

                More: G6 Fuel Pump info here: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/22623.phtml

                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
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                • pixsaudisex2
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                  • Sep 2004
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                  #9
                  I know this will sound stupid but have you got all the fuses under the passenger footwell my brothers died and found a fuse under there that had popped...
                  it was a dodgey coil pack that kept blowing it..

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                  • UrS4boy
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                    • Feb 2006
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                    #10
                    Callout for the Above AAN ECU Fuse Panel Fuses - UrS4 and UrS6 differences

                    Originally posted by pixsaudisex2
                    I know this will sound stupid but have you got all the fuses under the passenger footwell my brothers died and found a fuse under there that had popped... it was a dodgey coil pack that kept blowing it..
                    Yup and yup. As the AAN (or ABY or ADU) wiring gets old and brittle the insulation on the 12V power wires to the OE coils starts to flake off, especially if the 20V Turbo plate and attached coils are removed several times to access sparkplugs, etc. IF the bare 12V coil power wire shorts on the cam cover, the coil power fuse (the one in the yellow fuse holder) blows, killing the engine until the wiring is fixed and the fuse replaced.

                    Link to more info here: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/137287.phtml

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                    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                    • 220bhp
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                      #11
                      Where is the best place to by a new fuel pump. I just got quoted over £200
                      There are several on eBay for a lot less ,but I assume they are aftermarket . Has anyone used an aftermarket pump on there car.
                      The pump I took out was a vdo which I think is made buy Siemens, part no A8O 906 091G .There are a couple of other no's 13794 ,and 3181.

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                      • UrS4boy
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                        • Feb 2006
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                        #12
                        C4 UrS Fuel Pump Information

                        Originally posted by 220bhp
                        Where is the best place to by a new fuel pump. I just got quoted over £200..The pump I took out was a vdo which I think is made by Siemens, part no A8O 906 091G .There are a couple of other no's 13794 ,and 3181.
                        You *might* want to monitor that dyslexia. No such part number "A8O 906 091G". 4B0906091G is closer but still no cigars.

                        The proper PN is 8A0906091G.

                        More Fuel Pump info here (click on the G6 Fuel Pump label in the upper left corner): http://members.shaw.ca/speedtek/UrS%...ice%20Map.html

                        Here is one pricing on this side of the pond:

                        http://genuineaudiparts.com/parts/in...&siteid=214407

                        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                        • 220bhp
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                          #13
                          In to much Hurry probably. And yes I am slightly dyslexic. And yes I do monitor it.
                          Then we all have a problem of some sort. Some we see, some we don't, but thank you for your help anyway. Its much appreciated as always.

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                          • UrS4boy
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                            • Feb 2006
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 220bhp
                            In to much Hurry probably. And yes I am slightly dyslexic. And yes I do monitor it.Then we all have a problem of some sort. Some we see, some we don't, but thank you for your help anyway. Its much appreciated as always.
                            I often swap numbers writing down phone numbers for no good (diagnosed) reason, so yes, we all have a problem of some sort. Sorry to give you the gears (agro) on the part number.

                            Here is a story that will make you laugh AT me (justifiably), a quasi seniors moment I had yesterday at a Pick-n-Pull breakers yard:

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                            Last edited by UrS4boy; 2 November 2014, 16:10.
                            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
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                            • newsh
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                              • Aug 2003
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                              #15
                              That's pretty funny Dave, I know I've done similar, I just can't remember the details...

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