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  • porkkis
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2003
    • 1994
    • Country: Finland

    #16
    Only 6 bolts and mine was quite tight also...
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    • Doug_RS2
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Jul 2003
      • 3847
      • Home: Scotland Current: England

      #17
      Look at Mikes website for help with that cam cover:

      link

      Have you unscrewed those threaded pems (never heard that description before) - see Mikes pics.
      S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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      • Glen Chamberlain
        S2Forum Addict
        • Aug 2003
        • 375
        • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

        #18
        Excellent! thanks for that Doug! i wasn't aware of them two thingies! top man!
        Money is everything! Second to Power of course!!! But money breeds power??

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        • Martynf
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1885
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Glen,

          I kow the feeling with days of work rather than hours! felt the same when I ripped mine apart!

          If it helps you, here's a link to the RC change on mine: http://www.vagparts.com/S2/D3/rad3.htm

          Martyn
          Martyn
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          www.vagparts.com

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          • Glen Chamberlain
            S2Forum Addict
            • Aug 2003
            • 375
            • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

            #20
            Originally posted by Martynf
            Glen,

            I kow the feeling with days of work rather than hours! felt the same when I ripped mine apart!

            If it helps you, here's a link to the RC change on mine: http://www.vagparts.com/S2/D3/rad3.htm


            IMartyn
            'll probably use it for re-assembley cos my memory is like a? dam cant quite remember what its like now????? :confused:
            Money is everything! Second to Power of course!!! But money breeds power??

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            • Josh-stateside
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jul 2003
              • 741
              • Country: United States

              #21
              Cylinder head
              Disassembling and assembling

              Note: Cylinder head can be removed and installed with engine installed.
              Removing and installing toothed belt Repair Group 13
              Removing and installing fuel injectors


              Repair Manual, 2.22 Liter 5-Cyl. Turbo Fuel Injection & Ignition, Engine Code(s): AAN

              Cylinder heads with cracks between valve seats or between valve seat and spark plug threads may be reused without reducing service life, provided cracks do not exceed 0.5 mm (0.020 in.) width, or when no more than first threads are cracked.
              When installing replacement cylinder head with camshaft installed, contact surfaces between valve lifters and cam lobe surfaces must be oiled after installing cylinder head.
              When replacing cylinder head or head gasket, replace all coolant.
              Checking compression pressures Page 15-7




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              15-2


              1 - Cylinder head gasket
              Always replace
              Ensure correct installation position: "OBEN" marking or part number must face cylinder head
              Instlall gasket over centering pins in cylinder block
              2 - 20 Nm (15 ft lb)
              3 - Gasket
              Always replace
              4 - Cylinder head
              Checking for distortion Fig. 1
              Resurfacing dimensions Fig. 2
              Installing Page 15-6
              Servicing valve train Page 15-9
              5 - 65 Nm (48 ft lb)
              6 - Cylinder head bolts
              Always replace
              Follow installation instructions and sequence when loosening and tightening Page 15-6
              7 - Heat shield
              8 - 65 Nm (48 ft lb)




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              15-3


              9 - 10 Nm (7 ft lb)
              Tighten diagonally
              10 - Gasket
              Flanged surface must face exhaust manifold
              11 - 25 Nm (18 ft lb)
              Always replace
              12 - Exhaust manifold
              With turbocharger
              13 - 10 Nm (7 ft lb)
              14 - Spring with bracket
              15 - 10 Nm (7 ft lb)
              16 - Cover
              With ignition coils
              17 - Gasket
              Only replace if damaged
              Insert in groove in cover
              18 - Not applicable
              19 - 10 Nm (7 ft lb)
              20 - 10 Nm (7 ft lb)




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              15-4


              21 - Bracket
              For vacuum hoses
              22 - Cylinder head cover
              23 - Gasket for cylinder head cover
              Only replace if damaged
              Insert in groove on cylinder head cover
              24 - Plugs
              Only replace if damaged
              25 - Intake manifold
              Use Allen socket VAG 1669 to remove and install
              26 - Bolt
              For oil dipstick guide tube
              10 Nm (7 ft lb)
              27 - Gasket
              Always replace
              28 - O-ring
              Always replace
              29 - Coolant pipe
              30 - 10 Nm (7 ft lb)




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              15-5


              Fig. 1 Checking cylinder head for distortion
              - Measure with feeler gauge at several locations.
              Distortion: max. 0.1 mm (0.004 in.)

              Fig. 2 Resurfacing cylinder head

              Resurfacing of the cylinder head (grinding flat) is permissible up to minimum dimension -a- (measured through bolt hole).

              Dimension -a- (minimum) = 118.1 mm (4.650 in.)




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              15-6


              Cylinder head, installing

              Note:

              Always replace cylinder head bolts.

              There must be no oil or coolant in the blind cylinder head bolt holes in the cylinder block.

              - Before installing cylinder head, set crankshaft and camshaft in cylinder head to Top Dead Center (TDC) for cylinder 1.

              - Fit cylinder head gasket over centering pins: "OBEN" or part number must face cylinder head (watch hole pattern).

              - Install cylinder head and cylinder head bolts; tighten by hand.

              - Tighten cylinder head bolts in total of three stages - for sequence, see diagram.

              Tightening torques (engine cold):

              Stage I:
              40 Nm
              (30 ft lb)

              Stage II:
              60 Nm
              (44 ft lb)

              Stage III:
              1/2 turn (180) further with rigid spanner without stopping

              (2 x 90 is also permissible)


              Note: Loosen cylinder head bolts in reverse order.
              Additional retightening of bolts is not required.





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              15-7


              Compression pressure, checking

              Engine warm-coolant temperature gauge at approx. 80C (176F).

              - Turn quick fasteners (arrows) on connector cover on rear engine compartment bulkhead 90 to left and remove cover.

              - Mark and separate connectors -5- and -6- (to ignition coils).
              - Remove cover with coils on cylinder head cover Page 15-3 .
              - Unscrew all spark plugs with spark plug wrench 3122 A.
              - Check compression pressure with compression pressure recorder VAG 1381 and adapter 1381/1.
              Throttle valve fully open
              - Operate starter until no further pressure increase is indicated by tester.




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              15-8


              Compression pressures

              Specified value: 9.0-13.0 bar (131-189 psi)
              Wear limit: 7.0 bar (102 psi)
              Maximum permissiblepressure difference betweenindividualcylinders: 3.0 bar (44 psi)

              .......NExt subject:

              Fig. 11 Removing and installing vibration damper

              Tightening torque

              With spanner 2079:
              350 Nm
              (258 ft lb)

              Without spanner 2079:
              450 Nm
              (332 ft lb)

              - Use brace 3256.
              - Coat threads and contact surfaces of bolt head with sealing paste AMV 188 001 02.

              Note:

              Spanner 2079 for vibration damper must align with torque wrench.


              Email me if you need some pictures..

              Hope you can read this btw.

              Cheers
              Josh
              I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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              • audiman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Jul 2003
                • 4827
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Cylinder heads with cracks between valve seats or between valve seat and spark plug threads may be reused without reducing service life, provided cracks do not exceed 0.5 mm (0.020 in.) width, or when no more than first threads are cracked.


                ********, dont fit a head with a crack. It will not last. You can get the head welded up. Nice one Audi, i wonder if this was written by their mechanics and not the factory!!!
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                Audi UR Quattro
                Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                • Josh-stateside
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 741
                  • Country: United States

                  #23
                  I forgot some info:



                  Note becarefully of some of the tighening torques bently mentions.

                  Ex: they state 15ft pounds for the idle pulley on the aby/aan motors. But that's way too much. I actually broke the bolt.

                  Just use your best judgement on any bolt smaller than 8mm.

                  Cheers
                  Josh
                  I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                  • Glen Chamberlain
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 375
                    • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    heads off!

                    Well its come off! The head is on the bench with both manifolds and turbo still attached. But how sick was i too see that it already had a metal gasket fitted!! But i suppose iam fitting peace of mind now? The head came of much easer than i expected! not nessasarily easy but easier! I'll take some piccs tomorrow @ work and post them with the others!
                    Theres not really an "how to" as such, but just unbolt the head and remove what needs to be removed! follow your nose really?
                    Money is everything! Second to Power of course!!! But money breeds power??

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                    • Josh-stateside
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 741
                      • Country: United States

                      #25
                      That's a 3b motor btw.

                      You can tell cause the water pump can be adjusted.

                      No comment on this design from audi, but I am certainly glad they changed that.
                      I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                      • Mark Halligan
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2001
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Nice info Josh, going to be doing this soon.

                        Thanks,

                        Mark.
                        Mark - Modded

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                        • desmo888
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 390
                          • Country: United States

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Josh-stateside
                          That's a 3b motor btw.

                          You can tell cause the water pump can be adjusted.

                          No comment on this design from audi, but I am certainly glad they changed that.
                          Use some vaseline in the o-ring for the waterpump. This will allow the o-ring to slide easily during adjustment and let it seal well.
                          Don't let this project itimidate you! You're doing fine. Just take your time and enjoy it. Don't get too anxious, get the timing belt slack just right.
                          I'll be rebuilding a 3B soon so any tips would be appreciated.
                          You may want to check my timing belt change instructions on www.20v.org
                          I've done a few.

                          Dave K.
                          '90 CQ - soon to be turbo powered...
                          Dave K.
                          USA
                          1991 e//S2 (home built S2 - the only way to get one in USA!)
                          2001 S4

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                          • Josh-stateside
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 741
                            • Country: United States

                            #28
                            That's another person's motor btw.
                            Also on the Es2 list: Ben from canada.

                            My motor has alllready made it's way into the engine bay
                            I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                            • desmo888
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 390
                              • Country: United States

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Josh-stateside
                              That's another person's motor btw.
                              Also on the Es2 list: Ben from canada.

                              My motor has alllready made it's way into the engine bay
                              That Klumper Hoser, I know him. He's been a huge help in getting me started.
                              Dave K.
                              USA
                              1991 e//S2 (home built S2 - the only way to get one in USA!)
                              2001 S4

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                              • porkkis
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1994
                                • Country: Finland

                                #30
                                Originally posted by audiman
                                Cylinder heads with cracks between valve seats or between valve seat and spark plug threads may be reused without reducing service life, provided cracks do not exceed 0.5 mm (0.020 in.) width, or when no more than first threads are cracked.


                                ********, dont fit a head with a crack. It will not last. You can get the head welded up. Nice one Audi, i wonder if this was written by their mechanics and not the factory!!!
                                Mine has a crack and I'm going to put it back. It was pressure tested and no visual signs of any leaks were found.
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