Vems vs Nira i3

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  • kamuto
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Oct 2009
    • 83
    • Country: Lithuania

    #91
    Originally posted by Wiell
    Ok. You can use the lambda compensation as a referens for what you want to do.
    Set up the lambda tabell that you want. And correct the VE tabell after the lambda correction precentage.
    Is one way to do it.

    The people that is very deep into this stuff dont need autotune.
    autotune is nice on N/A engines when you are working with itb's or something set the dyno at fixed rpm, slowly press throttle, get all set automaticaly, then next rpm range saves some time

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    • blackS2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 455
      • Country: Germany

      #92
      Originally posted by kamuto
      that's your personal view both types of injector settings works good
      so mabe I have bad datasheets
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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #93
        I never used tune by statistics or auto tune. Just lots of logs while driving the car. Then on boost runs safe fuel and spark angle while listening for knock.

        Once I get more time I'll start using the knock sensing from vems

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        • Thuppu
          S2Forum Freak
          • Sep 2010
          • 4115
          • Country: Finland

          #94
          Thought that you already had experience in Vems knock feature..?

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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #95
            Nope. I recently updated to be able to use it. I have only read the basics to calibrate but haven't done anything yet. Too much of everything else going on and not much time left

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            • blackS2
              S2Forum Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 455
              • Country: Germany

              #96
              Yesterday I finished calibrating knock control in my VEMS... needed a little bit time to get the right settings but now I seems to work fine...
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              • diesel des
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Feb 2004
                • 3896

                #97
                Can you show the settings you used please.

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                • Prosac
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 108
                  • Country: Germany

                  #98
                  yes, the knock settings interest me also
                  408kw @ wheel

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                  • blackS2
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 455
                    • Country: Germany

                    #99
                    I am sorry, but if one spends hours and hours of research, kilometers of testing, fuel, time and many discussions with the VEMS engineers and some other tuners... who would simply post the results in the web?
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                    • Thuppu
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 4115
                      • Country: Finland

                      #100
                      Sounds like a really simpple feature to setup.

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                      • diesel des
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3896

                        #101
                        Originally posted by blackS2
                        I am sorry, but if one spends hours and hours of research, kilometers of testing, fuel, time and many discussions with the VEMS engineers and some other tuners... who would simply post the results in the web?
                        Sure I understand. But any helpfull hints? Cheers [emoji2]

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                        • kamuto
                          S2Forum Fanatic
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 83
                          • Country: Lithuania

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Thuppu
                          Sounds like a really simpple feature to setup.
                          it's simple just some people takes things too serious or love to overengineer them

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                          • blackS2
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 455
                            • Country: Germany

                            #103
                            Originally posted by kamuto
                            it's simple just some people takes things too serious or love to overengineer them
                            "to serious" - nope it has always to be done serious

                            but you are right, if one gets trough it and understands how it works its quite simple in VEMS... but a serious knock control is never a simple thing...

                            as hint: VEMS has released a helpful documentation about knock control also MoTec...
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                            • blackS2
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 455
                              • Country: Germany

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Thuppu
                              Sounds like a really simpple feature to setup.
                              I'm not talking about the single knock control - there were many other functions I tested with VEMS this year and this brought out some hidden issues that needed the development of new firmware versions to solve... but the VEMS developers where always fast and friendly
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