Non starting 3b s2

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  • bluequattro
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Nov 2004
    • 2960
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Non starting 3b s2

    Been sitting for a long time
    Aftermarket immo now removed so will turn over
    Have spark
    Have fuel pump working
    Have fuel to injector rail
    Have power at injector harness
    Turns freely but won't catch
    What's next on the list please?
  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Check dizzy alignment
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • bluequattro
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Nov 2004
      • 2960
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      As in timing or as in plastic drive gear that breaks?
      Do they have a crank timing pin
      like aan

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      • newsh
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Aug 2003
        • 16226
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Yeah, 3B has a timing pin on flywheel, dizzy timing must be perfect on marks when zero mark is aligned in bellhousing window

        S2 Coupe 3B Project


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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          Any fault codes?

          I would try unplugging the MAF, if the MAF is dead it wont start with it plugged in, but will run (roughly) with in unplugged)
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • 220bhp
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Nov 2004
            • 2578
            • Home: United Kingdom

            #6
            Fuel gone bad is a possibility, if its bean siting for a while
            Was it running before.

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            • bluequattro
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Nov 2004
              • 2960
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Already done without MAF.
              No difference. Fuel did smell bad. By time we got that far battery was going flat-maybe not enough power to switch injectors.
              I've bought some fuel system cleaner and will add to tank. Hopefully if any fuel varnished will clear it up
              Could injectors be blocked with bad fuel?

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              • quattro turbo 550bhp
                S2Forum Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 416
                • Home: Pakistan Current: United Kingdom

                #8
                non start

                when u say u got spark due u mean at the plugs or power at the coil

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                • bluequattro
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2960
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Spark from spark plug
                  Will be taking noid testers when I go back to the garage to check injector pulse and have a spare ecu to try
                  Could factory immo be at fault now?

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                  • mackenzie50
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 740
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    They don't like long periods of inactivity, do they!
                    - speaking from personal experience last winter my immobiliser decided to shut my car 'off' after 3 mths of not being used....

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                    • bluequattro
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2960
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Runs on easy start!
                      Garage have had injectors out
                      Two dribble rest weak spray.
                      Can aan/aby ones be substituted?
                      S2 Central (thanks Paul) states same part number but different fuel pressure and nozzle numbers.
                      Only want them in to shunt the car around while I do other jobs
                      Will send 3b ones for refurb.
                      Also got my other 3b running today.
                      That one is over fueling!
                      Sooting the plugs and won't idle
                      Bloody cars.
                      I love them.

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                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #12
                        Some Fuel Injector info

                        Originally posted by bluequattro
                        Can aan/aby ones be substituted?
                        Only want them in to shunt the car around while I do other jobs.
                        20VT injector info:

                        The NM (2L version of the NA 7A), 7A, 3B(200 20vt, early S2), AAN (UrS4/6) and ABY(later S2),and ADU (RS2) engines all use different injectors. It is common for 3B and AAN and ABY owners to upgrade to RS2 injectors when going above 280 hp. Here is some injector info, including rated flows

                        Fuel Injector Info:
                        The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


                        NM (2L version of the 7A): Audi PN 034133551E (Euro only)
                        7A: Audi PN 054133551A

                        3B: Audi PN 034 906 031, Bosch PN: 0 280 150 737 (3B uses a 3.0 Bar Fuel pressure regulator, FPR*)

                        AAN and ABY: Audi PN 034 906 031 B, Bosch PN: 0 280 150 951, flow:
                        280 cc/ min @ 3.0 bar (= about 26.7 lb/hr at SG = 0.72)
                        315 cc/ min @ 3.8 bar
                        323 cc/ min @ 4.0 bar (AAN and ABY use a 4.0 Bar FPR*)
                        361 cc/ min @ 5.0 bar

                        ADU: Audi PN 034 906 031 F, Bosch PN: 0 280 150 984, flow:
                        360 cc/ min @ 3.0 bar (= about 34.3 lb/hr at SG = 0.72)
                        405 cc/ min @ 3.8 bar (ADU uses a 3.8 Bar FPR*)
                        416 cc/ min @ 4.0 bar
                        465 cc/ min @ 5.0 bar

                        * FPR = fuel pressure regulator = http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/21108.phtml
                        Last edited by UrS4boy; 28 January 2016, 17:46.
                        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                        • bluequattro
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 2960
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Thanks Dave!

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