Baffled Sump Vs. Dry Sump.

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  • speedfr38ky
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Jul 2014
    • 76
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Baffled Sump Vs. Dry Sump.

    Hi Guys,


    Sure this has been covered before, but want to get your thoughts on baffled vs dry sump system.

    cheers.
    Adam.
  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #2
    What's the car used for road or track?
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    • Albert
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Aug 2003
      • 1500
      • Country: Poland

      #3
      if you want to keep the costs down use accusump
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      • Thuppu
        S2Forum Freak
        • Sep 2010
        • 4115
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        Biggest benefit of dry sump would be the possibility to rev higher up... Stock pump would propably not tolerate rpm's close to- or over 9000rpm.

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        • speedfr38ky
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          • Jul 2014
          • 76
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by AndyP
          What's the car used for road or track?
          The cars going to be used for a mix of fast road use and the "occasional" track day....I was going to go for an Accusump kit but ive seen VRS are going to be offering a dry sump system for the I5 very shortly. Unsure what to go for. Having spent a small fortune thus far i'm in a dilemma whether to fork out for a DS kit or not as the final whammy.

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          • speedfr38ky
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Jul 2014
            • 76
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by Thuppu
            Biggest benefit of dry sump would be the possibility to rev higher up... Stock pump would propably not tolerate rpm's close to- or over 9000rpm.

            9K rpm sounds like the engine will need a rebuild every 5k miles...?? Im after a reliable 600ps. But at the same time I dont want to be inhibited in giving the car a good thrashing pretty much everytime its driven.

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            • Thuppu
              S2Forum Freak
              • Sep 2010
              • 4115
              • Country: Finland

              #7
              Good sump baffling cost a fraction of the dry sump system and will be perfectly fine. If it is a 100% track car with supergrippy slicks then you may get some more reliability in high speed corners with dry sump. But then the accusump will also do the same thing.

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              • Error404
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                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                For fast road and track unnecessary IMHO but if I had the budget I would do it.
                You should also make the full use of the shallower sump packaging and drop the engine and gearbox down in the chassis which will have a very nice impact on the CoG.
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                • terrybullwon
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                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8782
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  What's the difference About £4000
                  Last edited by terrybullwon; 15 June 2016, 13:07.
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                  • dubmanted
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 312
                    • Country: Wales

                    #10
                    If it makes any difference im going to be around the 600hp mark very soon and will be running accusump along with a baffled sump. Dry sump is great if you have deep pockets and the need to rev high enough. Im sure theres a power gain to be had too but for mix of road & track im not sure the costs are justified

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                    • diesel des
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3896

                      #11
                      Were are guys connecting in your accusump? At the oil cooler pipes? Do you fit check valves or just a control valve?

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                      • Error404
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I have machined the special mounting bolt for the oil thermostat housing and welded on a -10 fitting
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                        • diesel des
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Error404
                          I have machined the special mounting bolt for the oil thermostat housing and welded on a -10 fitting
                          Ok cheers. Just wondering if a simple t piece on the flow or return would do?

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Tee into the return would work I guess, really needs to be direct into the main oil gallery
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                            • Audi_CQ
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 940
                              • Country: Norway

                              #15
                              Originally posted by diesel des
                              Were are guys connecting in your accusump? At the oil cooler pipes? Do you fit check valves or just a control valve?

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                              Drill a hole in the bolt that holds the oil filter housing and weld on a fitting and connect the Accusump there. Works perfect

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