Anyone got an how-to remove sunroof

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  • lind4hl
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2008
    • 2465
    • Country: Sweden

    #1

    Anyone got an how-to remove sunroof

    as topic, i am going to remove mine and cover it up with some nice Carbon fibre plate or something.. can i take it out without removing the headlining??

    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!
  • mcandmar
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Apr 2004
    • 5118
    • Country: Ireland

    #2
    On a coupe yes, havent taken apart an avant one. The interior trim panel unclips from the sunroof and will slide back, you will then be able to get at the bolts holding the panel on. Unbolt and lift out from above. From memory you have to do it with the sunroof in the raised position.
    91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
    93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
    94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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    • lind4hl
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2008
      • 2465
      • Country: Sweden

      #3
      so interior trim slides straight back in lifted position and then its just to unbolt and lift it out on the top?

      One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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      • mcandmar
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Apr 2004
        • 5118
        • Country: Ireland

        #4
        Think you slide back the interior panel first. Give me 2 mins and i'll find the manual and double check.
        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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        • lind4hl
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          • Jul 2008
          • 2465
          • Country: Sweden

          #5
          sure

          One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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          • mcandmar
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Apr 2004
            • 5118
            • Country: Ireland

            #6
            There actually different from coupe to 80/90 bodys. I've attached a pic as its easier than trying to write it out...

            91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
            93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
            94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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            • lind4hl
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              • Jul 2008
              • 2465
              • Country: Sweden

              #7
              hmm i think i will sort it out

              Thank you

              One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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              • mcandmar
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Apr 2004
                • 5118
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                Coupe version..

                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7627
                  • Country: Wales

                  #9
                  You need to take the headlining out of both Coupe and Avant to remove the complete sunroof assembly. Which is what I assume you want to do in order to save weight, I'm considering removing mine for this reason.
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • lind4hl
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2465
                    • Country: Sweden

                    #10
                    doh

                    yep. it is for saving weight.. anyways, then i can take out some sound deadening from there also..

                    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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                    • mcandmar
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5118
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #11
                      Ohh you want to remove the complete unit. In a coupe the frame is held in with a bunch of bolts around the frame, couldn't be easier. Removing the headlining without damaging it takes time. This thread might be of interest http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...ght=headlining
                      91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                      93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                      94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                      • quattro84
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 947
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #12
                        I did it for an 80 sedan not long ago because the rubber was full of algue 'n stuff (manual operated OEM sliding/tilt roof). Replaced it with a felt-rubber from an 1303 VW Beetle
                        Only interiour part i removed was the operating handle, and ceiling light to get to the screw that holds the plastic cover on the ceiling. Then you can access the 2 screws covered with lock-nut that hold the operating gear that moves the slidercables.

                        Then i slided the roof back as far as possible.
                        I removed all screws visible from outside (except 2 black countersunk ones that keep the sliders together) and then you can lift the entire assembly out (put some masking tape on your roof to avoid scratches)

                        Then i put the handle back on to put the roof in tilt mode to get the new rubber on. You can take the 2 sliders off with the spiral cable in place (Watch out for the 2 black 'flaps' on the side! Put those back in de sliderrails before mounting, otherwise it will not fit back). It is a pain in the @ss because if you operate it outside the car the cables will twist the slider assembly!

                        Reassemble the roof in reverse order and watch out because the operating gear/sprocket has a kind of 'memory'. It counts the number of revolutions internally so you can't damage the roof when opening. When you mounted the roof back in place you have to put it in closed position. Then you take out that gear with the handle on. The handle has a button you press when you want to put it in tilting mode. Rotate is till it blocks (this means that this position marks that the roof is closed) and mount it back in.

                        That last step took the most time to figure out what the right position was. Every time i closed the roof till the handle blocked, i noticed the roof was a bit too far open.

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                        • K Simmonds
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 7627
                          • Country: Wales

                          #13
                          Originally posted by quattro84
                          I did it for an 80 sedan not long ago because the rubber was full of algue 'n stuff (manual operated OEM sliding/tilt roof). Replaced it with a felt-rubber from an 1303 VW Beetle
                          Only interiour part i removed was the operating handle, and ceiling light to get to the screw that holds the plastic cover on the ceiling. Then you can access the 2 screws covered with lock-nut that hold the operating gear that moves the slidercables.

                          Then i slided the roof back as far as possible.
                          I removed all screws visible from outside (except 2 black countersunk ones that keep the sliders together) and then you can lift the entire assembly out (put some masking tape on your roof to avoid scratches)

                          Then i put the handle back on to put the roof in tilt mode to get the new rubber on. You can take the 2 sliders off with the spiral cable in place (Watch out for the 2 black 'flaps' on the side! Put those back in de sliderrails before mounting, otherwise it will not fit back). It is a pain in the @ss because if you operate it outside the car the cables will twist the slider assembly!

                          Reassemble the roof in reverse order and watch out because the operating gear/sprocket has a kind of 'memory'. It counts the number of revolutions internally so you can't damage the roof when opening. When you mounted the roof back in place you have to put it in closed position. Then you take out that gear with the handle on. The handle has a button you press when you want to put it in tilting mode. Rotate is till it blocks (this means that this position marks that the roof is closed) and mount it back in.

                          That last step took the most time to figure out what the right position was. Every time i closed the roof till the handle blocked, i noticed the roof was a bit too far open.
                          Yep, thats how the sunroof pannel is removed, the ONLY way to remove the runners ect is to drop the headlining.
                          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                          1994 MTM RS2.
                          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                          2000 B5 TQS.

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                          • lind4hl
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 2465
                            • Country: Sweden

                            #14
                            why cant anything be easy on these cars

                            but i love ´em anyway

                            One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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                            • K Simmonds
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 7627
                              • Country: Wales

                              #15
                              Removing the headlining is not to bad a job if you go about it systematicaly, refitting can be a bit of a PITA, again patience is all that is required. Once the headlining is out the way it's really easy to get the complete sunroof mech out, 8 X 13mm m8 bolts and a wiring plug, if my memory serves me correctly. If you take the whole lot out this way it's striaght forward enough to refit in future. Having another pair of hands to help is recomended.
                              1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                              1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                              1994 MTM RS2.
                              1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                              2000 B5 TQS.

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